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ophy
07-25-2012, 08:15 AM
The fact that kids are involved is deeply uncool. What little I have seen of the scans make me feel queasy.

But! There are couples dealing with this kind of stupid shit every day, and sometimes they weather it, and sometimes they don't. Guess we'll see.

THE GUY HAS KIDS.

Beeksus, Kristen. Such a dumb move.

emmaleigh
07-25-2012, 08:19 AM
Thanks, Issie.

IDK if they can or if I want them to. Looking at the pictures is like looking at a totally different person than the one we've seen for the last 4 years. She without a doubt wanted to get caught. She's looking right at the paps. She's wearing Rob's hat and the gold ring.
She looks like a mental patient in a desperate cry for help. And the blatant, ugly way she hurt so many other people intentionally is hard to take atm.

Btw I think much of the article is bullshit. US just got the pics with no details other than date and location. They had to go hunt out the story to write around them and likely fabricated much of it.

isadora
07-25-2012, 10:58 AM
Is it possible RK have an open relationship? Like, if they are apart they are allowed to pursue their own interests? They seem like they would be all accepting of unconventional shit like that? But publicly it messes up their lives. And it's gross to do that with a married man with kids, for sure. But at 22? My friend and I used to say we WISHED we were Monica Lewinsky and we didn't blame her AT ALL because we were immature assholes of EPIC proportions. And we crushed the hearts of decent boys with impunity at any chance we had so I can't really say that I feel judge-y of KStew. If only because I have a LONG list of asshole behavior to acknowledge before judging anybody else.

I honestly think KStew has always struck me as very young (you know how you have those younger friends that seem your age? Like I know people who are 25 who are just as settled as all my 39-year-old friends). Kristen is very much just 22. And stupid. And that's pretty normal. And she's under this grossly hot spotlight that can't lead to normal behavior anyway. I do feel your pain, em! Not here to mock but to console (and to watch, I mean it is a hell of a shitshow with their final movie promotion underway).

I kinda felt as soon as the bigfoot phase was over it might be a harbinger of doom, tho.

isadora
07-25-2012, 11:09 AM
I forgot to mention that I feel super bad for Rob if he was blindsided by this. Because I straight-up believe he worships the ground she walks on. And if this was some on-going affair? That poor kid!

ophy
07-25-2012, 11:28 AM
Is it possible RK have an open relationship? Like, if they are apart they are allowed to pursue their own interests? They seem like they would be all accepting of unconventional shit like that?

This has totally made me wonder about that, too. It does seem like the kind of foolishness the hobos might think was bohemian and progressive, but was actually just asking for trouble down the line.

isadora
07-25-2012, 11:56 AM
HOW can I work today!?

Round up of news:
ONTD has full scans of Us Weekly! (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/70632526.html)
I will say it's weird that there is no direct kissing photo. I mean, if they were hot and heavy in the car? There should be a series of photos, am I right?

Also? Is he kissing her in naught places in the car? Dear God, this is amateur hour! Do you know HOW MANY people are cheating at any given moment in Hollywood? And she wanders about in broad daylight and then fools around in her car!? It's baffling.

Also? I'm starting to think this was an on-going thing. I mean, who runs into the guy they worked with for months last year and makes out with him in their car? While sober IN BROAD DAYLIGHT? It doesn't pass the smell test to me unless they parted as pals and have spent ages texting and getting heavily flirtation that way? Eh... Not lookin' good for K-Stew no matter how you slice it.

http://professionalfangirldotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/image5.png
K-Stew gives a weird (likely meaningless) look to her director's wife.

http://i.imgur.com/m83by.gif
Michael Oregano has taken over for the anon Celine Dionne audience member. Ha!

Spurned wife allegedly posted this to Instagram and Twitter before locking it down:
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/624150338.jpg?key=500714&Expires=1343232557&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=OHXV-3nQp85A8lxzhF5Z1MjkV445JKperu1YIe8QQKXAeZXQuAcIa-tCU1RfaYoBTWHu3e9gm7mNtVV9SyAnORGSXEpqJPOxKQQ11iDb 8DEiqIosMu7zPYQWw3K7TTBHh2jjQtfE9SuiLiUPKxT2KG2RaO DZNKraIZ69OiaxpM4_
Ouch.

ophy
07-25-2012, 12:14 PM
Yeah, I thought that Instagram pic was weird for a thirty something mom of two kids. But hey, she's entitled to respond how she feels like responding.

http://www.laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/24174/Kristen-Stewart-cheats-on-Robert-Pattinson-with-Rupert-Sanders

So is it true?

YES.

Kristen Stewart was photographed making out with Rupert Sanders, who directed her in Snow White And The Huntsman, last week. US Weekly has the photos. You’ve likely seen the cover. The inside shots show the two of them in car. There’s no doubt what they’re up to. There’s also a shot of them embracing each other, Sanders’s lips on Stewart’s shoulder. This is perhaps the most incriminating photo. It suggests an intimacy that’s much too familiar to be explained away as platonic friendship. For all the effort she and Pattinson put into jumping into garbage bins whenever the paps are around, having your director go down on you in the car (it looks like this in one of the pictures) out in the open is f-cking moronic.

Sanders is married to Liberty Ross who played Snow White’s mother in his film. They have two children. So...

Kristen Stewart and LeAnn Rimes now have something in common.

Anyway, here’s how it all went down:

A very fortunate paparazzo jackpotted the photos last week. Us Weekly secured them for an exclusive and let Stewart’s rep know in advance on Monday, before the magazine closed, that they would be running the story. Stewart’s team had a one day lead to make their preparations which also gave Stewart the opportunity to let Sanders know herself and of course her boyfriend Robert Pattinson. If that’s any consolation, Twi-Hards, he heard it from her and not from the internet.

Stewart is not denying the story. If there were no photos, the strategy might be different. But it’s hard to argue with those shots. Instead then, she and her team have decided to acknowledge her mistake, giving up source quotes through PEOPLE and Gossip Cop, mouthpiece outlets for publicists:

"Kristen is absolutely devastated. It was a mistake and a complete lapse in judgment. She wasn't having an affair with Rupert. It was just a fleeting moment that shouldn't have happened. She never meant to hurt anyone. She's a good person who just made a bad choice."

The play here then seems to be to own up to the error but also suggest that it was a one-time stray, a “fleeting moment” in a parked car in broad daylight and not some regular f-cking in a hotel room under a code name. The honest move is a good one. Most of celebrities, as we’ve seen, would have denied it. John Travolta keeps denying it, even when there’s practically a dick in his mouth.

The other side of her game plan of course is to call for sympathy while admitting she screwed up. “Kristen is absolutely devastated” is a direct appeal to her fanbase, her Twi-Hards: she’s crying herself to sleep and you have to forgive her!

So hard to believe this was a one time thing, I have to agree. Ugh.

Elsewhere, we are discussing that this may show that Kristen is actually a relationship adrenaline junkie. As long as things were secret and ninja for her and Rob, it was still exciting for her. But they went and got domestic and started talking marriage and babies, and she got claustrophobic and freaked out, and this guy was feeding her some kind of drama she wasn't getting as the 'K' in R&K anymore. There was all kinds of excitement and drama when Rob was chasing her, and they had to sneak around and fight Summit and fight the whole damn world. But that's all gone now, and she has to find her high elsewhere.

Doesn't mean that she and Rob weren't/aren't real. Doesn't mean that they can't get through it, maybe. Does mean she might not be mature enough to be in a relationship with anyone until she gets her shit sorted out, though.


Let’s agree that the biggest pig out of all of this is Rupert Sanders. The problem is that the biggest star here is Kristen Stewart. Living with shame is terrible. This is Kristen Stewart’s reality now. She did a really, really dumb thing. Partly out of immaturity, perhaps some of it out of confusion, and definitely a lot of selfishness. She indulged. She did not think of others. She acted for herself. So on top of all the sh-t they’re saying about her, she also just became such a cliché, and Kristen Stewart was supposed to be the un-cliche.

She’s the individual! She’s atypical! She reads Faulkner and wears ripped clothes and five toe golf shoes!

Kristen Stewart is 22. She’s a Hollywood actress. She grew up in the business. She’s dating her big box office co-star. She cheated on him with a married director and may have just wrecked a home in the process.

I dunno, Twi-Hards, I’m pretty sure that’s not an original story.

The thing about celebrity though is that there’s always another narrative. Stewart’s next narrative priority is how she recovers. More on this to come, and whether or not she and Pattinson stay together.

I have no clue what Rob is going to do. I'm leaning towards the 'this is over for R&K at least for now' camp as being most likely. But his first instinct is to protect and defend her, and fight on her side, so he must be feeling rudderless right now.

isadora
07-25-2012, 12:24 PM
I don't blame that wife at all for lashing out for a minute. She posted "WOW" to Twitter and that pic to Instagram. But then she locked it all down and went into quiet mode. So she had a minute to take that news in, get REALLY PISSED and shocked, react without thinking of the public image, and then realized she's a mom and all that shit and clamped it down. I would be WAY WORSE. I'd be like Courtney Love after Kurt killed himself, wearing his sweater, crying and replying to every asshole on Twitter about what a huge cunt K-Stew is and how I think my husband is a stupid shithead for fucking around with a 22-year-old actress while our FIVE YEAR OLD and SEVEN YEAR OLD were at a play date. I'd probably give out my number so people could call me and I could tell them that shit personally.

I'm not classy, is what I'm saying.

emmaleigh
07-25-2012, 12:35 PM
It's not amateur hour. She wanted to get caught. She saw the paps and did it anyway. She's practically posed in those balcony pics.

ophy
07-25-2012, 12:37 PM
Eh, that might change if your five year old and seven year old were real instead of hypothetical! Easier to be classy when you have their tiny eyes on you.

I just can't get over the fact that the kids are going to be living with this because their dad had to go and pick the absolute highest (with the exception of like, Michelle Obama or Angelina Jolie) profile person to get dirty with. If he had been papped with some random starlet, this would blow over. The family might have broken up over it, of course, but it wouldn't be in every tab, on every news outlet. Recklessly dumb. Recklessly selfish.

isadora
07-25-2012, 12:47 PM
So do you think she wanted to get caught (I'm assuming you mean subconsciously) in order to fuel drama? or because of guilt? or some other reason?

Do you think it was on-going em?

I think y'all are right that coming out of the closet with Rob (so to speak), likely coupled with her parent's marriage imploding and being insanely famous and uncomfortable with that combined into a toxic, er, mix (I was going to say "stew" but I didn't even mean it like that) that led to her acting out. But she did cheat on Oregano with Rob, though, right? So she has a history of poor romantic choices at this point.

I will say that having a guy completely worship you at 22? You don't fucking appreciate it at all until you're older and your husband (the one you married, in part, because he DID NOT WORSHIP YOU at 22) won't do the fucking dishes. But maybe I'm projecting.

ophy
07-25-2012, 01:03 PM
I do wonder if Rob's brand of worship is smothering when it's 24/7, and not from across the ocean when you are filming things in different countries.

But yeah, she is going to be kicking herself even harder when she's thirty if she has actually fucked this up beyond redemption.

Lainey, by the way, is now saying that it looks like R&K are going to try and work things out. It's too early to make that call, I'd say.

ophy
07-25-2012, 01:27 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20614722,00.html


Stewart is issuing a public apology for hurting her boyfriend of three years, Robert Pattinson, by having a fling with her Snow White and the Huntsman director, Rupert Sanders.

"I'm deeply sorry for the hurt and embarrassment I've caused to those close to me and everyone this has affected. This momentary indiscretion has jeopardized the most important thing in my life, the person I love and respect the most, Rob. I love him, I love him, I'm so sorry," Stewart said in a statement Wednesday.

Not a mention of a certain somebody's wife and kids, but maybe she'll do that in a separate statement.

I kinda think we might see something official from Rob, stating support and asking for 'privacy as we try to work things out' soon. Since they are going to go with the 'use the publicist' route.

IssieCol
07-25-2012, 01:33 PM
Is it weird that this kind of endears her to me? Like more than all her hobo-ing and faux rebellion and pap avoidance ever could, tbh. I can UNDERSTAND this behavior even if I was never like this, you know? Self-sabotage at 22 when everything is going wonderfully almost seems like a rite of passage or something. And that's just if you're a normal nobody! If you're the most famous 22 year old in the world, the desire to see just how bad you can fuck up your perfect life must be like a constant itch. Maybe it's because I never really *expected* better from her? Like Is said, she seems like a 22 year old in every sense of that word/age. She's never been a Dakota Fanning or an Emma Watson. If those girls had done something like this, I'd be way more shocked, but with KStew, I just kind of go, "Eh, well, live and learn."

RPattz is older, but I don't know if he's necessarily mature? You guys would certainly be able to guess that better than I would. But if he is more of a grownup than she is, maybe he can understand how she got to this place and that it might not (probably doesn't, actually) have anything to do with him or how strongly she feels for him. I don't know...

isadora
07-25-2012, 01:48 PM
The wife (who is either 29 or 33 depending on what you read but looks closer to 40) has my deepest sympathies. To play the MOTHER and then have your husband slurping her in-semi public (particularly as an aging beauty)? OMG. I'm freaking out about getting old and feeling like a wrinkled sad sack! Imagine if I had been an actual model or something? Ugh. If my husband slept with a beautiful, seemingly surly and constantly high 22-year-old woman after having cast ME as her MOTHER? I would be murderous! I try to imagine having two little kids to take care of but I come from a bad family--we drop the kids off with an aunt and then go on a rampage anyway!

And, like I said, I feel bad for Rob. And I'm sure he's being SWARMED and can't even get outside for some fresh air in his own backyard because of this madness.

But, weirdly enough, I'm totes with you on this one, Issie. I *get* this kind of fuck-up. Her human frailties are way more endearing than her fierce "rebellion" thing could ever be, IMO. The number of people left in pain in her self-destructive wake is AWFUL, obvsly, though.

ophy
07-25-2012, 01:49 PM
I wonder if you are a barometer, Issie. I assumed that for the more casual observer out there this would just reinforce the 'KStew is dirty white trash' sterotype, but I do wonder if it will actually win her some new supporters in some corners.

The statement she issued is so heartbreaking. She's never opened up like that in a public statement, ever. I'm getting verklempt just thinking about it.

isadora
07-25-2012, 01:51 PM
Also? Would give ANYTHING to be a fly on the wall at Summit right now. I mean, THIS is what they were trying to avoid, in way? I'd bet they are just relieved it didn't happen DURING filming of the Twi movies.

And the public statement? The first real acknowledgment of her feelings for Rob? That got to me!

IssieCol
07-25-2012, 01:55 PM
I do feel bad for that director's family, FOR REAL, though. And yes, it would make me lose my shit entirely if my husband fucked around on me with someone who is not only almost young enough to be our daughter, but who actually PLAYED my daughter under my husband's DIRECTION. Hollywood is not made for lovers of the lifetime variety, I can't believe anyone even tries anymore. And now that I've read some quotes from Rob about how he values monogamy and looks up to his parents for sticking it out all this time, my heart kinda breaks for him too. Was this his first big love? These kids! I can't imagine living this out with everyone watching and giving their opinions and throwing all their hate at you.

ophy
07-25-2012, 02:07 PM
He had a serious long term live-in girlfriend before ever meeting K, but I think it's safe to say that Kristen is his first big Epic Love. To borrow a TVD term.

cajun
07-25-2012, 02:08 PM
This smells of publicity stunt to me. BD2 opens soon, no? Those photo scans are just...IDK. Is she kissing him in the one of them in the car? The camera seems so close. Especially the balcony pics. Even with the 22yo angsty mindset, I cannot believe she was this stupid.

I wish Garrett Hedlund was the man is these pics. It would make it so much more fun.

IssieCol
07-25-2012, 02:10 PM
Can we also talk about how monumentally CRAY people are? I mean, your standard uber fan denial with claims of, "Those pics were Photoshopped, it's not her" are boring at this point, but someone made up a story about how the wife called some rando radio station IN AUSTRALIA to say that it was her in those pictures, not KStew. And now, there are people who are saying that KStew's apology is FABRICATED. Like, the denial is so deep at this point, not even KStew's ACTUAL WORDS can tear them away from their delusions. There was one girl on tumblr threatening to kill herself if Us Weekly didn't retract their claims, but then she didn't 'cause her mom bought her some cake! OMB, thank GOODNESS for that CAKE, shit! Life is scary if you're a Twihard!

ophy
07-25-2012, 02:13 PM
And the director comes out with his:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20614764,00.html
Kristen Stewart isn't the only one expressing her anguish over her cheating scandal with her Snow White and the Huntsman director Rupert Sanders.

"I am utterly distraught about the pain I have caused my family," Sanders tells PEOPLE in an exclusive statement. "My beautiful wife and heavenly children are all I have in this world. I love them with all my heart. I am praying that we can get through this together."

Now his reads like a regular PR statement. Except for the 'heavenly children'. That's just plain weird.

ophy
07-25-2012, 02:17 PM
If it had been a publicity stunt, then it would NOT have been with a married director, father of two kids, and connected to a completely different movie. That's not how these things go down.

I doubt Summit is happy about this at all.

isadora
07-25-2012, 02:21 PM
No way this is for publicity. I mean, they are the biggest young stars in the world with a giant franchise about to be put to bed. This is not good publicity. It could ruin K-Stew's career as well as her relationship. You don't fuck around with a married guy in public to get on the front pages of Us Weekly. She could have just given them an exclusive about her "coming out" in her love for Rob.

In fact, it's a HUGE statement about her shitty rep team that they weren't able to squelch this. I mean, Tiger Woods got caught years before his big scandal broke and the story was buried because he gave the pubs a bunch of exclusives about his stupid life. I believe Matt LeBlanc did the same a couple of times.

It's possible that Rob was not on board to pimp himself out, or Kristen thought it was shittier to pimp out her relationship with Rob to cover her bad behavior. I mean, she easily could have gotten the cover by giving them a long, exclusive interview about her LOVE of Rob (her opening up for the first time would have been a bombshell in and of itself).

I'd guess this wasn't an option because the photos were up to the highest bidder? People mag doesn't do that kind of scandal--they always want the heartfelt apology, not the scandalous photos. Honestly, I'm surprised Us got these photos. They are purely Enquirer territory, IMO.

cajun
07-25-2012, 02:42 PM
I don't understand why if her PR team knew, they didn't just shut it down. It makes no sense. Jolie bounced back from the JennyAn debacle. Perhaps, KStew needs to upgrade her management team.

Tom Cruise is thanking Xenu right now.

ophy
07-25-2012, 03:01 PM
Yeah, as em was saying a few days ago, Kristen is notoriously loyal to her people even though she should have gotten a higher caliber team years ago. They just aren't up to handling this kind of shit at all.

Okay, I'm crazy mesmerized by your icon, cajun. Beeksus.

NeoMaxy
07-25-2012, 03:22 PM
Heavenly children...? Are they all dead?

isadora
07-25-2012, 03:28 PM
I do wonder when Rob will release a statement? He'll have to, if at least to get out ahead of the BD2 publicity tour, I'd guess.

I'm DYING to fast forward to the BD publicity tour and see how this plays out. I mean, clearly, Summit will have them only go to approved media outlets that will ask prepared questions about the movie. But who goes where with who and how will reveal much.

I'd bet Taylor Lautner's team is wondering how to use to their advantage during the publicity tour. He's going to be a one-man show, I'd guess.

emmaleigh
07-25-2012, 04:11 PM
Her publicity team didn't squelch it because they didn't know till US had gone to press. Pap got the photos on Tuesday and was shopping them around last week. US Weekly bought them but they only got the photos and no additional details or context so they needed time to hunt out/fabricate the exact story to run with them. They contacted K's team on Monday letting them know they were going to press with it and they had a 24 hour headstart. Kristen told Rob and then told Rupert who told his wife and I'm imagining Monday was the worst day of everyone's life.
It could be that US Weekly knows how ineffectual Ruth is and therefore didn't feel they had anything to lose (re: additional Kristen coverage) by going with this story which is going to be a HUGE seller for them.

I actually don't think it was ongoing (which is perhaps incredibly naive but there are a few details including the wording of her apology that make me think this pics were a one-off). She'd have to be damn sure nothing else was going to come out to commit to the "momentary indiscretion" thing because if that proves to be inaccurate, she's not coming back from it.

This is horrible for her career all the way around. Not only does it seriously jeopardize her personal integrity but in theory, effectively kills her Balenciaga scent campaign set to debut in September, the Snow White sequel, and of course BD2. My feeling now is that if RK don't get back together, BD2 is dead in the water. Twihards, emotionally uninvested viewers, and people with morbid curiosity will show but that bulk that does multiple viewings on opening weekend? Nope. They will stay away in droves. I would kill to be in Summit's and Universal's war rooms today.

I actually think Taylor's team is going to be super pissed. They have an opportunity to position him as the star but the box office take, which was part of his renegotiated salary, will be down. I can't imagine they'll want Kristen anywhere near press. Any question about Bella will just be tainted by this. What she did in the grand scheme of starlett-y transgressions is not all that bad but a public affair when you're the most private young actress in Hollywood, no one is going to forget that.

But I wonder if they won't try to make it work just through the movie and separate after its release. IDK what would be better for press honestly, the awkwardness of being together or the awkwardness of not but I'd guess the former.

ophy
07-25-2012, 04:45 PM
Tom Cruise is thanking Xenu right now.

I wonder if the clams have convinced Tom that it was the power of his mind that made Kristen cheat. Now there's a new PR angle. 'Tom Cruise made me do it with his brain'.

Personally, I think if Rob's done, then he's done. I don't see him faking his way through a press tour just to boost box office or whatever. I hope they don't even consider that. He can't pull that off, no offense to his acting skills. She could, of course, but they are very different people in that regard. Can you imagine how agonizing for him?

I'm just not a hundred percent convinced that he's done, until he says so himself.

emmaleigh
07-25-2012, 05:00 PM
His camp is pushing the "he planned to marry her" angle hard but I just don't know which way that's going to go yet. I feel like it's 50/50. He probably doesn't know yet, either.

ophy
07-25-2012, 05:08 PM
I think that's pretty likely. He's got to be feeling powerless and paralyzed right now. It's easy to say that someone should just cut ties and walk away, but he's truly built his whole life around her.

Ugh.

emmaleigh
07-25-2012, 05:18 PM
Good thing they quit smoking together. Sure they're back to five packs a day now.

ophy
07-25-2012, 05:38 PM
This 'source' is Ruth, I assume?


Kristen Stewart and Rupert Sanders admit they had a tryst, but was it an onset romance that began while they were filming Snow White and the Huntsman?
Nope.

A source insists that the two didn't get together until long after they wrapped the movie and its international publicity tour.

"I can guarantee you 100 percent that nothing happened when they were working—nothing!" the source said.

K.Stew and Sanders were snapped by paparazzi kissing just last week in Los Angeles. Less than 24 hours after their involvement was revealed last night, both Stewart and Sanders released separate apologies.

No surprise, but Stewart is laying low right now with no plans to be out and about anytime soon.
"She knows she messed up big time," the source said. "There's no getting around that. She's not doing well, but what do you expect?"

'Kissing' as a word choice also downplays what the pictures show, as does 'tryst'. So this must be from Kristen's team.

isadora
07-25-2012, 06:43 PM
Another "source" "close" to K-Stew, this time noting that she is confident she will win him back (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/kristen-stewart-cheating-robert-pattinson-win-back-trust-back). Which implies that they are already broken up, in my mind, you know?

Not sure how reliable Radar is (in the sense of "did they make it up" or "did it come from a publicist?" So take that for what it's worth.

ophy
07-25-2012, 06:52 PM
The longer he goes without saying anything or being seen anywhere, the more I think that yeah, it's over (for now).

The Radar bit would seem like an odd thing to come from her people, because it's hubristic and weird. But equally odd from his people. But they've always had some shady hangers on at Casa de Hobo, so it could be from any random 'friend', really. Or one of her brother's friends. He's got very sketchy ones that are probably out peddling stuff to anyone that will listen.

It'll be interesting to see if Rob pops up in London at some point soon. He's ninja enough to get there without being seen (if there was ever a time when taking a private plane would be justified . . . ).

ophy
07-25-2012, 07:27 PM
http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/kristen-stewart-rupert-sanders-release-public-apologies-affair-204300610.html


After Kristen Stewart's bad decision, comes a good one. Just hours after photos of her romantic embrace with her married Snow White and Huntsman director, Rupert Sanders, she released a public apology.

"I'm deeply sorry for the hurt and embarrassment I've caused to those close to me and everyone this has affected. This momentary indiscretion has jeopardized the most important thing in my life, the person I love and respect the most, Rob. I love him, I love him, I'm so sorry," Stewart said in a statement.

Compared to the spate of denials and mea culpas from most cheating celebrities which are largely spent lambasting probing media, Stewart's statement was fast, honest and deeply remorseful. Despite being a closed off celebrity known for her perpetual snarl, it was a statement that seemed full of emotion and shame. If anything, it revealed the side of a 22-year-old growing up, owning her very serious mistakes and trying desperately to right them.

If there's anyone who should be groveling it's the 41-year-old Sanders, father of two young kids, and husband to Liberty Ross, the same Liberty Ross cast as Stewart's mom in the movie. Not long after Stewart's statement, Sanders had one of his own.

"I am utterly distraught about the pain I have caused my family," he told People.com. "My beautiful wife and heavenly children are all I have in this world. I love them with all my heart. I am praying that we can get through this together."

Sanders' statement is more melodramatic that Stewart's and at the same time far less self-incriminating. No direct reference to his indiscretion, but instead referring to affair as something to "get through" with the help of his family. It's as if, it happened to him, rather than something he was partly responsible for.

The fallout has most likely upset Pattinson, who doesn't take kindly to cheating, according to a recent Vanity Fair interview. But they've only recently become public with their relationship, only a year from rumors linking him with other actresses. Not to excuse her actions but frankly, they're just kids. Stewart's infidelity was bad, but not Sanders bad.

After tweeting "Wow" just after the scandal broke, Sanders' wife, model Liberty Ross deactivated her Twitter account and has yet to make a public statement. Based on her Vogue blog, where she recounts her role in the movie (as Queen Eleanor) and her relaxing family vacation post-premiere, the infidelity was a big surprise.

Not only did Ross support her husband during the film, a project she described as 2 year-haul, she stuck by Sanders when he was still an unknown director and she a famous model. Their recent swap in celebrity status is a new thing, she told You magazine, before the cheating photos surfaced. As a mom and long-time supporter of her husband's work, she's facing an embarrassing fall-out from the affair, particularly because of all the promotional press she's done in advance of the film.

Then there's their young children, aged 5 and 7. Stewart and Sanders are slated to make a sequel to the "Snow White" movie. His role as director, and their family's future income, could be in jeopardy thanks to this scandal. Not to mention their once happy family unit, now in disarray.

As an actress in the film and co-star to Stewart, Ross was betrayed literally behind her own back. Sanders also cast Ross, 33, as the mother to Stewart, a woman only 11 years her junior. Not the most flattering decision in retrospect.

If age can be a factor in infidelity, it can also help to explain bad choices. Stewart is 22, and though in a relationship, she's technically single and has spent her young life on a film set. She made a mistake, is owning it, and appears to be growing up as a result. Meanwhile, Sanders is 41, married, and a father. He's also Stewart's boss on set, a powerful role that can be used to influence someone much younger and less experienced. His mistake may have torn apart his family and ruined his credibility as a new director. For him there's no going back. He should have known better. For Stewart there's a good chance, if not for forgiveness, then for maturity. After this, she will know better.

So we are not the only ones who think Kristen's public mea culpa is far superior and more heartfelt that RS's.

The admins of one of Kristen's fansites, kristen stewart daily, are stepping down and not going to run their site anymore. I don't know if this is a sign of which way the wind is going to blow in among her stans or not.
http://kristenstewartdaily.net/archives/12130

Dear followers and readers,

Due to personal reasons the current admins of KristenStewartDaily will be stepping away from the site. It was an amazing and fun ride being here providing you with news on Kristen Stewart. However, due to recent events and personal beliefs, we cannot remain admins of this site and condone the actions taken by the actress. It’s no Robsten or Nonsten drama. We as admins just can’t support and condone someone who would cause so much heartbreak not only to the person she loves but to another family as well. It would be hypocritical of us to continue posting here like everything is okay when in our hearts we don’t support her actions.

You may be saying we’re not true fans for turning our backs on her but this is how we feel and we are being honest to ourselves.

We hope things get sorted out for all parties involved but for now, this is us saying goodbye to this site.

Sincerely,

Karen, Karee and Angie

isadora
07-25-2012, 07:58 PM
Radar has something from the Rob camp (maybe?). It sounds plausible:
“Rob is in shock that Kristen cheated on him, he is absolutely devastated,” a source close to the heartthrob exclusively told RadarOnline.com. “But right now he doesn’t want to say anything in public until he figures out what he’s going to do.”

Kristen and Rob were spotted together just three days ago on July 22 at the Teen Choice Awards where they seemed flirty and happy with each other, without a care in the world.

PHOTOS: Inside Rob Pattinson’s And Kristen Stewart’s London Home

It was just a few days earlier on July 17 when the shocking photos of Stewart and Sanders were taken, showing them embracing and kissing, in a cheating scandal that is rocking Hollywood.

“Rob is really hurt by Kristen,” the source said. “Catching her cheating is not at all what he expected from her.”

ophy
07-25-2012, 08:12 PM
It doesn't sound at all like a slamming door, does it? Sounds like one that is still cracked open.

jennk
07-25-2012, 09:20 PM
I really wish I could post from work, I'm so behind today.

Word on this making me like KStew more. I have mostly found her annoyingly too cool and have sort of rolled my eyes at some of her attitude and statements in interviews. But I never disliked her more than I dislike a lot of 22 year olds. But I was definitely a hot mess at 22 and made mostly terrible decisions when it came to men. So this I sort of get and it seems clear she is very upset about hurting Rob.

I still think she should make a statement about the dude's wife, but maybe she's been told not to draw attention to the married with kids thing? I have a hard time believing this was a one-time thing, but can buy that it hasn't been ongoing since filming. I could see it going on for a brief period of time, but the whole sober mid-day car hook-up doesn't seem like an unplanned, heat of the moment type thing.

I want to see public crazy from the wife! I'm with isadora, I would be out in the streets making a scene. I would not be shutting down my twitter, I'd probably start 3 new accounts with names like "FuckKStew" or something and just tweet terrible things about everyone.

IssieCol
07-25-2012, 10:27 PM
I don't know how legit this is, but it is weirdly accurate if the dates on the prediction are right. Like, CREEPY style accurate. Celeb Psychic (http://www.celebpsychic.com/2011/11/couples-we-lovekristin-and-rob-kristen.html)


Kristen Stewart has some creepy eyes. I don't trust her but anywho. I had a dream the other night about her, she was near some train tracks, as with any other of my train dreams, it usually means that a relationship will come to an end to whomever is in the dream.

This relationship will continue down the road its been going for the next 7 months or so but I do see them ending things in late Summer of 2012. Again, the relationship will end because of some unfaithfulness, I will blame this on Stewart for now and Pattinson will come to the decision to end the relationship.

Right now they are definitely in love and taking the relationship to deeper levels but it can't be sustained.

And now some other trashy mag says they'll release the rest of the pictures on Monday, the raunchier ones that US couldn't/wouldn't include in their story. OMB!

LaaLaa
07-26-2012, 01:54 AM
Yes! Wifey needs to take a nine-iron to Rupert Sanders' Lambo at LEAST. I second and third her WOW.

Ugh, I can't really post from work either! But now that I'm all caught up on the dirty, I'm so shocked and sad, for em and for Rob! He has obviously wanted to marry her real hard, so his camp is clearly just trying to buy him time. I don't know that I like KStew more or less, but even the 22-year-old idiot in me definitely wants to give her a quality slap upside the head.

ETA: Raunchier? Like, more from the car!? Good Lord.

emmaleigh
07-26-2012, 02:26 AM
I'm not saying this to defend her behavior (because you can't) but I really think something happened, that she snapped in some way. I feel like it's been building for a long time and there were lots of little red flags that could all be explained or dismissed individually but her behavior got weirder and weirder throughout the year and the week after CC , it all came to a head.

In all the pap pics that have been released of that week, she looks like a different person. The ones with Rupert are especially cruel in that she's bedecked in all her Rob "tokens". There's a set of her in shorty shorts in the parking lot and she kind of looks like a crazy person. Her eyes are glazed, she walks right up to the paps and smiles at them, talks to them about something and then bows at them. This is the same girl who usually says "fuck you" or "I hate you" to paps. She looks dirty and kinda haggard.

Same with these new ones outside Gold's with Nick Cassavettes (director of her next movie, Cali). The bags under her eyes are immense (like she's been crying tbh) and she just looks ~off.

She just seems very erratic and OOC to me.

Parking lot: http://www.imagebam.com/g...xesx35rk5dirulh8xbh5bv1i

Gold's: http://kristenstewartdail...=44202#top_display_media

I really believe going forward on Cali is the worst possible move for her. She shouldn't be working period IMO but especially on a movie that is hyper sexual and violent and requires her to alter her entire appearance. She needs rest and help, probably therapy. I'd think she needs therapy anyway just to reconcile throwing away the biggest part of her life for the past three-four years. But there is shit that's not being dealt with and it's manifesting in a million different ways.

My heart aches for the immense pain, humiliation and betrayal that Rob is suffering.
But I'm concerned for Kristen. This is not the person her fans have followed for however many years. And if he leaves her, I honestly don't know what she'll do.

isadora
07-26-2012, 10:36 AM
Your links are not working for me!

Did she walk up to the paps when she was with Rupert? I'm not clear on that point.

I always thought she suffered from some sort of personality disorder (and these things tend to get worse at Kristen's age). A dear friend of mine--a person I would trust with money, children, life because she takes on your every trouble as though it were her own--recently discovered that the depressive episodes she'd suffered from her entire life were really bipolar disorder. Her manias were simply mild up to this point. But during her real, seriously intense mania? She did things that were so completely out of character that it was difficult to believe she was capable of such behavior. She flirted with guys online (she's married) and even sent them provocative photos. She behaved as though she had very little moral compass and behaved in ways that I would never have thought her capable.

I'm not saying Kristen Stewart is bipolar--how the hell would I know? But I guess since my friend has a mental illness that made her act very out of character (my friend is still processing what she did, what it means to her family, etc.) I think anything is possible in this situation. I also think the insane brazenness of it is a red flag of sorts! Real affairs are much more covert, yes? One of the most famous young women in the world getting worked over in her car by her director is just astonishing! I honestly can't think of a single other scandal in recent times that was so OPEN. I mean, aside from straight-up sex tapes when was the last time a celebrity got papped straight-up cheating? It just does NOT happen. The rumors are there but the photo evidence is not.

Surely there will be more photos and possibly video leaked at some point? She'll be lucky if that doesn't happen, IMO. US Weekly got the exclusive but the other rags will be chomping at the bit to get the scraps, I'd guess? Particularly if it reveals something else/more.

I think the director is a super duper sleaze and I feel TERRIBLE for his wife. She's talked openly about her marriage and how hard she worked to support him and champion his talents. And how he works all the time and leaves her to be a single parent, basically. Time to roll on Liberty!!!

Kristen intends to send personal letter to Liberty. (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/kristen-stewart-affair-married-director-apology-letter-wife)

cajun
07-26-2012, 11:13 AM
I also think the insane brazenness of it is a red flag of sorts!

ITA. She wanted to get caught.

So, she's been with RPattz since she was 18? My understanding is that she went straight from the pre-Rob BF to Rob. Girl needs some play time. Obviously, there was a better way to go about it. This whole ordeal has actually humanized her to me. I sabotaged a relationship with a good guy at 23 in similarly dramatic fashion.

She seems kinda into Sanders based on body language in this pic.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb154/cajun12/kristen-stewart-producer.jpg


ETA:

The fandom meltdown has completely consumed me. It is all-out war.

isadora
07-26-2012, 11:18 AM
That's a good point. She has been in a relationship without interruption since she was, what, 16 or 17? I'd be climbing the walls of my nice cage, too.

isadora
07-26-2012, 11:29 AM
Oh, and as for the fandom?

WHAT is up with people still denying it? It's baffling.

cajun
07-26-2012, 11:39 AM
Some soul is screen-capping the tumblr meltdown in all it's glory. ONTD always has the goodies.

"Kristen did NOT fucking cheat!!! Any true fan and supporter of ROBSTEN would believe that she didn't!!! All of this bullshit needs to stop!!"

http://imgur.com/a/Lyr1H/all#7

ophy
07-26-2012, 11:50 AM
That was a cast dinner with lots of people there, right? I thought there was actually someone sitting between her and RS. In fact, it kinda looks like she's looking at that person and not RS at all.

I'm a little bit in love with the undiagnosed bi-polar disorder hypothesis. I wonder if that would also explain some of her other bizarre behaviors over the past few years, like the ComicCon she did almost entirely as Joan Jett. But, that's all just armchair psych stuff. Who knows, really. All sorts of explanations have occurred to me, like a prescription drug issue she's been hiding from everyone, or just a plain old mental break of some kind. I agree with em, she's not herself in those other pap pictures (the ones where she approaches the paps in a totally bizarre way is from the day *after* the pics of her and RS were taken, is).

The links em posted were broken for me, too, so I found some of them on tumblr:

http://marygtwinews.tumblr.com/post/28025715543/kristen-doing-im-not-sure-but-shes-porbably
http://marygtwinews.tumblr.com/post/28026663773/kristen-doing-im-not-sure-but-shes-porbably
http://mrs-kristen.tumblr.com/post/28045070662
http://fanofrobsten.tumblr.com/post/28048902497
http://littlekristenstew.tumblr.com/post/28051247708
http://littlekristenstew.tumblr.com/post/28052228876
http://kristenforthewin.tumblr.com/post/28053988317

She looks like a lost and angry little girl. All broken.

isadora
07-26-2012, 12:02 PM
Is that a pap she's talking to? It's pretty weird looking.

emmaleigh
07-26-2012, 01:36 PM
The rest of the pics of the cheating are up but the site's not loading anymore. It's like looking at a different person. I don't know what to think.

I don't see them getting past it to be together and I don't see either of them ever being the same.

If she had cheated privately, I could maybe see it but putting it out there for the world to see every gory detail is what he won't be able to get past I think. And the fact that she wanted that on some level... no words.

ETA: site's in and out: http://kristenstewartdaily.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1296&pid=44306#top_display_media

VOMIT.

ophy
07-26-2012, 01:37 PM
According to People and Posugar, both of them have left the Los Felize house. And it sounds like a very sad Rob has decided on a break up.



Stewart and Pattinson at the Teen Choice Awards July 22
Kevin Mazur/TCA 2012/Wireimage
FacebookTweetRobert Pattinson has packed his bags.

Following Kristen Stewart's public apology for having a fling with her Snow White and the Huntsman director Rupert Sanders, the 26-year-old actor has left the Los Angeles home he shared with Stewart, PEOPLE has confirmed.

"I'm not sure they'll be able to recover from this," a source says of the couple of three years, who met making the Twilight trilogy.

In seclusion and not in contact with Stewart, 22, the British star "is heartbroken and angry," says the source.

A "devastated" Stewart, meanwhile, described Pattinson as "the person I love and respect the most" in her apology following revelations of her indiscretion with Sanders, 41, a married father of two.

"Kristen really loves Rob more than anything," says an insider. "He's all that matters to her right now."

So that's stuff coming directly from his people and her people.

This is definitely the way it has to be for now, ad I think it makes sense.

Maybe in six months or a year, they can find their way to something new. Friendship or whatever. If Kristen gets her shit sorted and doesn't just spiral and spiral.

I'm so afraid she is going to spiral and spiral, though. And that's going to be hella painful for Rob to watch through the tabloids.

emmaleigh
07-26-2012, 02:19 PM
The potential of a bipolar disorder is being raised all over the interwebz.

jennk
07-26-2012, 03:20 PM
Mental illness is always a possibility, but could she be developing a drug habit? Sudden erratic behavior usually makes me think drugs before mental illness.

isadora
07-26-2012, 03:35 PM
I know nothing about the hobos but I don't think it would not be a stretch to say they seem to like to party.

IssieCol
07-26-2012, 04:13 PM
Is it possible that mental illness is just a cop out that her stans want to give her? I mean, it could also just be that she's 22 and going through a selfish asshole phase, right? I'd be more inclined to believe drug abuse than mental illness.

isadora
07-26-2012, 04:32 PM
Generally I'd say that she's just 22 and an asshole. But I also think getting caught THIS RED HANDED is a red flag for *something* be it being on (the wrong) meds or being off (the right) meds. I mean, WHO gets caught like this? She's been a fucking ninja with her boyfriend for three years and all of a sudden she can't keep herself from grinding against a married man in public? It just doesn't fit for me.

jennk
07-26-2012, 05:37 PM
I might even be willing to believe that she's not a regular drug User, but happened to be on something that day that made her behave recklessly. But I know even less about the hobos than the rest of you and we see so little of most celebrities actual lives. She could have just had a bad day and decided she didn't care anymore.

Linda
07-26-2012, 05:38 PM
I'm going to go with she's a spoiled asshole.

isadora
07-26-2012, 05:41 PM
I'm not even sure we have to choose! She might be a spoiled asshole drug user that also has a mental illness.

isadora
07-26-2012, 06:17 PM
Who is talking to the Chicago Sun-Times? (http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/people/14017562-421/robert-pattinson-horrified-by-kristen-stewart-apology-moves-out.html)


After spending a couple of miserable days “digesting it all,” according to one of his best friends, the 26-year-old actor moved his personal belongings out of the Los Angeles home he had shared with Stewart.

A photographer caught the actress in a compromising position with Rupert Sanders, director of her film “Snow White and the Huntsman,” leading Stewart to apologize publicly to Pattinson.

“He is still in total shock,” said the source, “but Rob is a very, very proud man — and Kristen knew how he feels about remaining faithful, loyalty and commitment. … He also was horrified that she issued a public apology to him.

“It was even more surprising because the two of them had this very specific personal agreement about not ‘going public’ with their relationship, until they both agreed it was the right time. To do it this way — apologizing for cheating on him — ended up being totally unacceptable.

“As Rob told me [after Stewart released her statement], “She only had to call two people: me and Liberty [Ross, Sanders’ wife].”

In her statement, Stewart said she regretted “this momentary indiscretion has jeopardized the most important thing in my life, the person I love the most, Rob. I love him, I love, I’m so sorry.”

The source — who also claims to be very fond of Stewart — expressed doubts that Pattinson would be able to take her back. “I’m sure he will be able to forgive her — eventually. But he will never forget, and that could be a big stumbling block to him letting her back into his personal life.”

ophy
07-26-2012, 06:36 PM
I heard that gossip columnist is a bit of a hack, so who knows.

I honestly do wonder about an undiagnosed mental illness and/or prescription drug abuse or something. Not because she cheated, because whatever. That happens when you are 22 and under ungodly amounts of pressure and have never *not* been in a relationship since you were like, fifteen.

But it's *how* it happened and with who, and all those whacko pics that came in the two days afterwards that has me scratching my head. Something is going on.

We may never know what, though. Hopefully, she's not going to go full Lohan on us. I don't think my poor heart can handle that!

isadora
07-26-2012, 06:54 PM
Oh, the cheating is not why I think she's mental. I can fully accept being 22 and an asshole leads to cheating. It's the blatant-ness and the slightly weirdo shit after that makes me think something is up.

I have been WRACKING MY BRAIN trying to find a recent example of this kind of scandal and I can't. I mean, there are soooooo many legendary cheating stories among celebrities, it's not even funny. But evidence in the way of photos of grinding in public? Not so much. That's not just selfish asshole behavior. That's downright irrational!

IssieCol
07-26-2012, 06:56 PM
I was just gonna say that this:


She might be a spoiled asshole drug user that also has a mental illness.

is basically how I would describe Lohan in a nutshell and I could not imagine KStew falling off the deep end like Lindsay. Hopefully, she has way better support around her and a way less fucked up family who can help her through this.

I feel like I overindulged in the cray and now the Twilight stans have exhausted me beyond my saturation point. Nothing they say makes me giggle clap or cringe from second-hand embarrassment anymore. I am officially desensitized to all forms of fandom wackness.

Promotion for BD2 is like 3 months away, right? If they spend that time apart and then try to interact again once promotion is closer, hopefully they'll both have gained some more perspective and it won't all feel so VERRYVERRYCLOSE. Some distance right now might afford them the chance to salvage something from their relationship, even if it's just friendship.

ophy
07-26-2012, 07:08 PM
BD promotion is going to be INSANE. I imagine there will be a whole taskforce working on how to do this round the clock for the next three months. Send them to different cities and different countries, and work a whole new set of logistics? Or do you just tell everyone to suck it up and go with whatever the original plan was and hope to control the meltdowns and freakouts as they occur?

Poor Rob has promotional stuff for Cosmopolis that he has to do in like two weeks or so, too. That's going to be rough. I'll bet he's praying to Xenu that Tom Cruise abducts Suri via helicopter or that Brad Pitt is caught getting a blowjob from Michelle Obama on the front lawn of the White House or something.

And Kristen is supposed to start filming Cali soonish, I think. Can't think of a worse time for her to be playing that kind of role. With Alex Pettyfer, who is known to be a total ass, too. It doesn't sound like the most supportive environment. She really needs to put off everything for now, and spend the three months NOT working on a porn star movie.

isadora
07-26-2012, 10:12 PM
Issie, that is also how I would describe Lohan! She really is. With zero emotional support from the looks of it, just a den of vipers and leeches!

I actually hope that KStew is *just* an asshole. Comeuppances are often a cure for that shit.

emmaleigh
07-26-2012, 11:07 PM
The psychic that predicted the breakup posted this today:

Kristen Stewart has apparently cheated on Robert Pattinson with her snow white director Rupert Sanders. The question is, will Rob stay? They will take a break from the relationship, but it appears as if Rob will take Kristen back. He does want to marry her. He would love to start a family and all that good stuff. Wowzers. Rob has fallen into Kristen's spell. Ain't no way he's getting from under it.

I feel as if Rob will grow from this experience and perhaps even find religion so to speak. He's happy being in the background and letting Kristen shine.

For some odd reason, I don't even think Rob is upset right now. Kristen's world is falling apart at the moment, but this affair won't follow her. She's teflon.
Clinging to it like a life raft.

IssieCol
07-27-2012, 12:22 AM
That prediction seems pretty sensible, actually. I would maybe disagree that he is not upset right now because that would kind of make him a robot instead of a real live boy, but other than that, I would agree with the rest of what she says. I can totally see them getting back together in a while (if they've even officially broken up) and yeah, Hollywood doesn't care if you're a cheater as long as the general public doesn't. And to KStew's advantage, she never had a young little sweetheart image. People already thought she was a dirty hobo bitch anyway so now those same people can just think she's a slutty dirty hobo bitch. I feel like if Rob forgives her, most of the recently disillusioned Twihards who claim to now hate her will eventually also come back around. I really don't even see this slowing down her career, like at all. She probs still needs to take a break, though, just to avoid a Lohanesque future.

ophy
07-27-2012, 08:00 AM
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they get married and have babies in five years. Time!

The dream is not dead, they just need time. Again, this is assuming she doesn't go full Lohan. Although if she did, Rob might come to her rescue because Kristen does have that going for her and Lohan doesn't. Hard to imagine that Rob could watch her totally spiral without trying to help her, no matter how hurt he is right now.

Scootch over, em, and make room for me on that life raft.

ophy
07-27-2012, 09:17 AM
From Ruth, I'm assuming:


http://rumorfix.com/2012/07/exclusive-rupert-sanders-infatuated-with-kristen-stewart-for-months/
Ever since pictures were released of Kristen Stewart kissing director Rupert Sanders, rumors have been flying thick and fast as to what exactly happened between them and for how long.
RumorFix reached out to exclusive sources who tell us that Rupert, 41, was obsessed with Kristen and chased her for months.

“He was absolutely infatuated with her,” our source tells us. “He was after her for months but she was just in love with her boyfriend. She never chased him, never pursued him. He is much older than her and took advantage of his position. She was never a victim but he absolutely was the one to go after her. It was pretty obvious what was going on.”
Reports that Kristen followed Rupert around the Snow White and the Huntsman set, even when she wasn’t filming, are also untrue according to our source.

RumorFix also learned there was no long-term affair – it was a one-time thing and pretty much just what we see in the Us Weekly photos.
“She was young and mistaken,” our source says. “She is a strong girl and admitted she was wrong. That statement was Kristen, totally her own voice.”

isadora
07-27-2012, 10:54 AM
I can actually see him caving later in the summer (assuming he's moved out and gone to lick his wounds as his PR people indicated). I mean, the odds of them not being in the same place at the same time for the rest of the year? Unlikely! If he is such a sucker for her? I'd say it might be easy to wear him down. But still. She's 22. She's never been single. She tore it down for a reason. Maybe she doesn't even know what that reason is yet.

Also, we're not the only ones who find the fact that she was so brazen as to be photographed (let alone that she has such a shitty team that they can't cover it up) completely bizarre. I've seen numerous articles/posts about it now. And the apology (while I thought it was heartfelt) has caused people outside the fandom sphere to ask WHY? I mean, she never gives personal info to the press willingly and now she's all I LOVE HIM I LOVE HIM ZOMG. I read a few reactions from people who haven't followed her closely for years and the basic thought was, "Um, wow, that looks like panic! Her people are insane for letting her acknowledge this at all." And, weirdly, I sort of agree. I mean, she never acknowledged openly that they were dating so why declare your love now? You are a single 22-year-old. You don't owe us explanations. That apology has got to be an act of desperation to reach Rob, IMO. And I would be ego-gratified but also horrified if I were him. They clearly felt that keeping their stuff private was important. And then she blows it open in public? It's pretty baffling!

I also read some comments that felt this was a huge fuck-you to the Twilight era of her life and that she probably wanted to get caught to break up with the crazy Twi-hards as much as Rob himself. I don't really buy that.

ophy
07-27-2012, 11:21 AM
Yeah, I don't buy that either.

If it's true what that one 'source' said (that Rob has not been in communication with her), then the statement she released so quickly makes perfect sense. If she couldn't get him to listen to her at all, and it was something she was that desperate to say and have him hear, then I can see her being that bold. *She* was the one forcing him to be private about their relaysh, so coming forward like that might have seemed like a grand gesture to her. A giant 'I'm doing what you always wanted me to do, declaring my love for you in public, I'm doing this for you and only you.'

And panicking, absolutely.

I've seen people that the statement was coerced out of her by Summit, but I don't think so. I think this was all her, and was all about reaching out to Rob because he wouldn't listen to her. (Understandably.)

Her people are obviously shit at what they do. That is becoming so clear during this. I mean, it was clear before, really, but now? Totally shit. I'm flabbergasted that they couldn't at least have prevented the additional 50 gross pics from coming out. Or even the ones where she's pissed at the paps from the day after. They haven't been on top of any of this, and it makes no sense to me.

IssieCol
07-27-2012, 12:09 PM
Does anyone believe this story they're peddling that this was a one time transgression and not an ongoing fuckathon? 'Cause their body language in those photos implies a familiarity that makes those claims pretty ridiculous. I wonder if there's video that will eventually get released. That pap seemed too prepared for there not to be one.

Also, what do our experts think about the theory that it was his wife who tipped off the photographer? Dumb? Credible? She seemed to have known a few days before the story came out, so it seems plausible, anyway.

ophy
07-27-2012, 12:41 PM
From Gossip Cop . . . sounds like Kristen's people are walking back the one time thing, but not walking back the 'they didn't have sex' claim.

http://www.gossipcop.com/kristen-stewart-cheating-scandal-facts-details-rumors/

It’s been a few days since the Kristen Stewart-Rupert Sanders cheating scandal came to light, triggering an avalanche of stories and speculation about what exactly happened between the Snow White and the Huntsman collaborators.

As soon as Stewart came forward and admitted to an “indiscretion” on Wednesday, webloids began picking apart the fling from every conceivable angle, producing a lot of rumors but very little actual reporting.

While it was not a full-blown “affair,” despite reports, the Stewart-Sanders indiscretion is serious stuff, leading Robert Pattinson to leave the home he shared with Stewart and Sanders to apologize to his wife and children.

But much of what’s being said beyond that is just hearsay.

Here’s what Gossip Cop has learned from our sources to this point:

1. Stewart and Sanders’ hookups occurred in the last few weeks — not during the filming of Snow White and the Huntsman.

2. While they definitely fooled around, Stewart and Sanders did not have sex.

3. Sanders is now focusing all his attention on repairing his marriage to Liberty Ross, and it’s been a “very difficult” time for them.

4. Despite Stewart’s public apology and first open declaration of love for the actor, Pattinson, who was “blindsided,” is still very “upset” and is not prepared to discuss the matter at all with Stewart.

Gossip Cop will continue to look into the situation and report stories grounded in facts, not idle speculation.

They might be admitting to more than one hook up now, because there are more pics out there or vids, or something. Possibly. And the theory is that Kristen's folks are going to the press with these kinds of details because Rob is refusing to talk to her and this is the only way she has of communicating with him. So these are meant for him, not really for the rest of us.

roly
07-27-2012, 02:05 PM
Some new (at least to me) and interesting tidbits in this article about how Charlize is pissed at both KStew and the director:

Fallout from the Kristen Stewart/Rupert Sanders affair bombshell has started to drift over Hollywood. “Snow White and the Huntsman” star Charlize Theron is furious with both the film's director and co-star, RadarOnline.com reports.

“Charlize is absolutely fuming with Kristen for having an affair with Rupert,” an insider told the website. “She is very tight with Liberty, has often socialized with the family over dinner, and cannot believe Kristin has done this.”

Liberty Ross, Sanders' wife, also starred in the film as Kristen Stewart's (Snow White) mom. Sanders and Ross have two young children.

The source said the cheating scandal puts Theron in an “difficult position."

That difficult position also has career ramifications, as there is a studio option for a sequel to the successful fantasy film, an option that may now not be exercised thanks to the scandal involving two if its stars and its director.

Meanwhile, Stewart’s longtime boyfriend and “Twilight” co-star Robert Pattinson is said to have moved out of the home he shares with her, and is “heartbroken and humiliated” after her shocking admission that she slept with Sanders, according to People magazine . After Us magazine obtained photos of her kissing Sanders, Stewart issued an apology.

“I am deeply sorry for the hurt and embarrassment I’ve caused to those close to me and everyone this has affected,” Stewart, who has been dating her “Twilight” co-star Rob Pattinson for several years, said in a statement . “This momentary indiscretion has jeopardized the most important thing in my life, the person I love and respect the most, Rob. I love him, I love him, I’m so sorry.”

Pattinson and Stewart were reportedly seen fighting backstage at the Teen Choice Awards Sunday night, just days after Stewart, 22, and Sanders, 41, were snapped in their steamy rendezvous.

“Rob and Kristen were having a long and intense conversation backstage, and he looked miserable, heartbroken and humiliated. She was pleading,” a source told Page Six.

Another source reportedly told the paper that Stewart “begged” a photographer not to publish the pictures that were obtained of her “indiscretion.” She was then was forced to own up to Rob late last week.

“Rob is deeply in love with Kristen and is very jealous when other men hit on her. This will crush him,” the source told the Post.

Meanwhile, Ross reportedly took to social media to share her thoughts in a series of cryptic messages.
She reportedly tweeted “wow” and the Marilyn Monroe quote "sometimes bad things fall apart so better things can fall together." She later deleted her account.

Just weeks before the scandal broke, she said in an interview with YOU Magazine that she had been through major challenges with her husband.

"I romanticized domesticity for a while, and loved having a shopping list of groceries stuck to the fridge for the first time," Ross said. "But moving here and starting a life all over again was a lot harder than I had anticipated. I just didn’t think it would be as isolating and daunting as it turned out to be."

"I would never say out loud that I am raising my children alone, but a lot of the time it has felt like that,” she added. “I went from the glamour of working with Karl Lagerfeld and John Galliano to living on an isolated hilltop, with my husband gone most of the time.”

Sanders also issued an apology to People magazine Wednesday.

ophy
07-27-2012, 02:48 PM
Well, firstly, I'm fairly sure that Rob did NOT know about this at the TCAs. Not saying that they might not have been discussing something else backstage, though. But he supposedly did not find out about RS until Sunday, which is when he packed a bag and left.

And secondly, Gossip Cop has this to say about that article:http://www.gossipcop.com/charlize-theron-upset-kristen-stewart-cheating-rupert-sanders-affair-scandal/

First off, if RadarOnline wants to be taken seriously, it should probably spell Stewart’s first name correctly.

But more importantly, while this is an unfortunate situation for all parties, Theron is NOT involved and has NOT voiced her feelings on the subject.

A source close to the actress tells Gossip Cop exclusively that Theron has been busy filming a movie in Africa, stressing, “This has nothing to do with her.”

There’s plenty of actual, legitimate emotion in this story already — there’s no reason for outlets to make up rumors (with unrelated people) to further stir the pot.

jennk
07-27-2012, 04:05 PM
I definitely do not believe Rob knew at the TCAs. We are supposed to believe that she would tell him or even discuss it with him in a relatively public place like that? Absolutely no way. I also don't entirely buy the story that the director was infatuated with her and going after her hardcore during filming. Those dinner pics of them show that she was at least most likely not creeped out by him. I would have thought she'd keep her distance if he was after her and she had no interest.

I totally believe all of this is an attempt to communicate with Rob, which could be backfiring if the story about Rob being upset that she chose to use this as an opportunity to make things public. I can but that it is out of desperation and panic. This also seems very 22 years old to me.

Also, I know very little about this stuff, but Charlize Theron has a great career, right? Would she be that invested in how this whole thing might possibly affect the chances of a sequel?

ophy
07-27-2012, 04:39 PM
Eh, who knows what Charlize might think or care about. She's been around the block with HW scandals, and prob thinks this one will blow over and perhaps not affect a sequel at all. Although, I assume a sequel would require a different director. RS is disposable, Kristen is not.

That dinner pic . . . y'all realize that Charlize was sitting between them, right? And in that one pic, Kristen is looking at Charlize, not at RS. Those dinner pics don't really say anything at all.

Hollywood Life is already saying that Katy Perry is 'thinking about starting up a romance with Rob'. Beeksus, people. The corpse ain't even cool.

isadora
07-27-2012, 04:49 PM
If I were Katy Perry? I'd be thinking about it. Not loudly enough to make Hollywood Life take note, howevs. I could see Charlize being irritated, too. But not like screeching at the press irate or anything. I'd be irked if I were her, particularly if I were friendly with the wife. You don't take a married man's kids out for ice cream (allegedly) and then let him eat your cat in your car a couple of weeks later. It's not classy.

emmaleigh
07-27-2012, 04:59 PM
Can the romance between Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart be saved?

In the wake of the cheating scandal that has rocked their three-year relationship, the two stars are not speaking to each other, PEOPLE has confirmed.

Pattinson, 26, and Stewart, 22, have both left the Los Angeles home they shared pre-scandal and are living separately elsewhere.

But they won't be able to avoid each other indefinitely: They are scheduled as co-presenters at MTV's Video Music Awards on Sept. 9, followed by their massive promotional tour for the final film in the Twilight saga, Breaking Dawn: Part 2, due out Nov. 16.

Both stars are also attached to several other upcoming projects. Pattinson, whose indie drama Cosmopolis opens in limited release Aug. 17, recently signed to star in The Rover, an Australia-set revenge film.

Stewart, meanwhile, is about to get a new leading man: Magic Mike's Alex Pettyfer, who was just cast as her love interest in the upcoming action comedy Cali.

And then there is her other upcoming film: Snow White and the Huntsman 2, a planned sequel to the fantasy film directed by Rupert Sanders, the other man in the cheating scandal that erupted when Stewart admitted to their fling in a public apology to Pattinson.

Up is down. Black is white. I have no idea what the fuck to think anymore. This was obviously sent by Ruth and/or Nick and it reads like fucking press release of painful, personal details and oh then, also a previously unknown and extremely rare joint appearance and upcoming work info.

*throws up hands*

isadora
07-27-2012, 04:59 PM
For serious?

Robert Pattinson isn't only heartbroken over his girlfriend Kristen Stewart cheating on him, he's curious about what really happened and RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned he wants to go straight to the source, Rupert Sanders.

Devastated after photos were released late Tuesday night revealing that Kristen, 22, had an affair with the married director, 41, Rob moved out of the Los Feliz home he once shared with Kristen on Thursday.

"Rob wants to have a man to man chat with Rupert to find out exactly what happened between him and Kristen," a source close to the Twilight star exclusively told RadarOnline.com.

"Kristen has already betrayed his trust by cheating, so he can't be sure that she will tell him exactly what went on between her and Rupert. Rupert has a wife and a family to save, so Rob feels like he has nothing left to lose and would be honest with him."

The insider went on to reveal that Rob feels doubly betrayed because he trusted Rupert as the director of Kristen's film Snow White and the Huntsman and had no idea the two were getting so close while he wasn't around.

"Rob really was blindsided by this and he's going through the typical stages of being cheated on," the source said.

"He was hurt and heartbroken, then angry and pissed off, and now he just wants answers. He feels like he needs to know exactly what happened, how far it went and how many times, so he can figure out if this is something he can move past.

"He's not ready to talk with Kristen, it's too painful, so he's going to Rupert."

Kristen released a statement on Wednesday calling the affair a "momentary indiscretion" and reiterated her love for Rob, but new photos released on Thursday of Kristen and Rupert getting cozy in Germany in May have Rob questioning Kristen's apology.

"Rob just doesn't know who or what to believe right now," the source said. "And he'll do whatever it takes to find out the truth."

ophy
07-27-2012, 05:10 PM
Uh. Oookay.

That seems legit.

Except totally not.

Somebody is just fucking with Radar, amirite?

isadora
07-27-2012, 07:56 PM
I hope so. Maybe not? People who get cheated on go through a crazy period where they want to know EVERYTHING to understand the gravity of the betrayal!

In other news, I have never literally did a *facepalm* before today. Then I saw this story. (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/70702836.html) Good lord!

People confirms Robsten not speaking:

Can the romance between Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart be saved?

In the wake of the cheating scandal that has rocked their three-year relationship, the two stars are not speaking to each other, PEOPLE has confirmed.

Pattinson, 26, and Stewart, 22, have both left the Los Angeles home they shared pre-scandal and are living separately elsewhere.

But they won't be able to avoid each other indefinitely: They are scheduled as co-presenters at MTV's Video Music Awards on Sept. 6, followed by their massive promotional tour for the final film in the Twilight saga, Breaking Dawn: Part 2, due out Nov. 16. [WHO WOULD HOLD THEM TO THIS?! --Is]

Both stars are also attached to several other upcoming projects. Pattinson, whose indie drama Cosmopolis opens in limited release Aug. 17, recently signed to star in The Rover, an Australia-set revenge film.

Stewart, meanwhile, is about to get a new leading man: Magic Mike's Alex Pettyfer, who was just cast as her love interest in the upcoming action comedy Cali.

And then there is her other upcoming film: Snow White and the Huntsman 2, a planned sequel to the fantasy film directed by Rupert Sanders, the other man in the cheating scandal that erupted when Stewart admitted to their fling in a public apology to Pattinson. [Does anybody REALLY think that Sanders will be doing the sequel at this point!?]

emmaleigh
07-27-2012, 09:46 PM
I posted that on the last page. Star and I must have been posting at the same time so it jumped to a new page.

This was my commentary:

Up is down. Black is white. I have no idea what the fuck to think anymore. This was obviously sent by Ruth and/or Nick and it reads like fucking press release of painful, personal details and oh then, also a previously unknown and extremely rare joint appearance and upcoming work info.

We get nothing and I mean NOTHING about personal details for YEARS when they're seemingly normal and happy, and now that they're all horribly invasive and sad, they've decided to play the fractured relationship out in the press.

If I were cynical about R/K (and I'm just not, even though the blinders are off), I'd guess this whole fucking thing was a press stunt judging by that People article.

*throws up hands*

isadora
07-27-2012, 09:58 PM
Oh, I missed your post on the last page! I HATE when that happens!

The years of complete media blackout and now the daily PR sourcing of rando shit is fairly baffling. Team Robsten is in PR shambles it would seem! Who would blame Rob for backing out of that appearance? This must be Team Stew's work? Going forward I will assume any publicly dumb moves are made by her team. Of course, People.com could have cobbled together MTV sources and others to create that story. But still. I'd say Team Stew is flailing.

isadora
07-27-2012, 10:16 PM
While Rob Pattinson is not on my laminated list? He really is pretty. I was just thinking that only a 22-year-old would cheat with a 40-year-old man! Dear girl, you have your whole life to sleep with a 40-something man with kids! In 20 years he'll be that guy you married!

You only get a couple of years with this:
http://51.imagebam.com/download/AtT5G27Ztlio2_VYzdVXfg/20344/203430188/plrob1.jpg

ophy
07-27-2012, 10:20 PM
Does Rob have a publicist yet, em? I mean, if he didn't before he might as of this week. If there was ever a time that he needs one, this is it.

I agree that there's probably a vacuum when it comes to direction from Kristen and Rob themselves, so Ruth and Nick are like 'wheeee! Go on a crazy PR spree! Say everything we have ever wanted to say, but do it stupidly!'

Which is, you know, exactly what R&K need right now, except not at all.

About the VMAs . . . even if R&K have reached some kind of civil level of communication by then, CAN YOU IMAGINE what that would be like for them? The most self conscious celebs on the planet, and like, a billion people would tune in to see them stand awkwardly on a stage and read from a teleprompter. Total nightmare.

(And I can tell that you are still shaken up by all of this . . . or just operating on no sleep, em, because you just used my real life nickname. ha! I almost call mr.o by his real name on here all the damn time anymore. Can never remember which board I'm on.)

ETA Yes, he's very pretty. And I agree! I sleep with a forty year old guy with two kids all the time. Not saying I miss sleeping with 26yr olds, but still . . . . I hear ya.

emmaleigh
07-27-2012, 11:12 PM
Ok I know I'm insane but that picture made me tear up. That poor, poor man.

It's becoming increasing clear that K has some serious issues including a daddy/director complex, hence the 40 year old man who was a director.

In the pics, Kristen is totally passive and checked out. She's bent over letting him grind her but she's just staring into space and in one, it looks like she's shoving him back as in "back off". When she does participate (aside from the kissing), it's to hug him which led a friend to speculate that this was way more about emotional support for her than sexual interest. Emotional support from a man twice her age who had mentored her. Who she otherwise lets do stuff to her.
It fits with porn (which I'm assuming she's researching for Cali prep) where the actors just check out and go through the motions and Kristen's description of sex tapes:
"Yeah, but they're lying while that video is being made. The act is in itself a lie. You're faking something. The girl is lying there, she's pretending that she doesn't know the camera's on, she's getting banged, and it 'accidentally' leaks out? Everyone leaks their own sex tapes! That's a ploy to get famous- that's not about the sex."
Or a ploy to get caught. (I'm not at all saying K leaked the pics, just that the parallels are telling.)

From another friend:

She was savvy enough to understand that problem actors didn't get very far whereas collaborative artistic types who pleased the daddy/director would always find work even if they had public image problems. It also makes sense why she chooses such sexually charged roles - in addition to the Electra aspect, it is literally baring herself to her daddy/director and begging for love. It also explains why she has such shitty taste in friends.
Which led me to dig up this quote from the latest Interview interview which skeeved me at the time and now is YUCK but nails it.

"In personal conversations between director and actor, the male directors that I've worked with are just as emotional. Maybe it's because I had to start having very intimate conversations with adult men at a very young age in order to get the work, but I'm real comfortable with dudes. I mean, we push boundaries in this business in terms of getting to know people. There are things that directors know about me that people shouldn't know."
SQUICK.

She also exhibited a borderline uncomfortable intimacy with Jake Scott and Walter Salles (both in films where she takes her clothes off) but maybe, hopefully, they didn't exploit it. Given this, the LAST place Kristen should be is a film set right now because that daddy/director shit has already started with Nick Cassavettes and her lifting her shirt for him in a gym parking lot. She's pretty much a headcase and if Rupert picked up on that, all he needs to totally exploit it and take advantage.
She needs lots and lots of therapy. And to not work for awhile. And definitely to avoid male directors.

And I'm not taking away Kristen's accountability but word from a very legit source is that Rupert worked on her for months and since she was spiraling anyway when she hit her breaking point, he made his move.

These poor damaged kids break my heart.

Oh shit, I'm sorry! Yes, very little sleep. TONS of cross posting and AIM convos and phone calls and blech, multitasking. Sorry! Clearly you should've made your board name and RL nickname the same, like mine. ;)

ophy
07-27-2012, 11:27 PM
I know! I should have.

And I think you have totally nailed it all, em. It's sad, and scary and fucked up, but on some level? Kind of understandable.

I do wonder about the directors she had when she was just a kid. Seriously - suspicious of all of them, now. Can't help but wonder if there was one at her most formative age that screwed her over and set this pattern in motion.

isadora
07-27-2012, 11:27 PM
It's cool. We knew you were crazy a long time ago, bb! I went to Wilmy THREE times. Not really in a position to judge at this point. Hee!

Who are these really bad friends? Y'all have mentioned them before and I'm lost.

I have no doubt that Rupert was up in her grill. His wife feels alone in her marriage (and this was BEFORE the cheating) and has been working double time to prop his ass up. He's a douche. I can see it from Chicago. I want that wife to leave him more than I want Robsten Unbroken for y'all! Also? What's up with that Unbroken meme? I feel sooo out of the loop!

IssieCol
07-28-2012, 12:53 AM
Is KStew's family effed up? I mean, I know her parents separated and that's a hard situation to deal with, even if you're an independent adult, but apart from that? Was her dad checked out or something? If you had to play armchair psychologist, why does she have daddy issues?

At this point, I think the Fannings should just take in all of young Hollywood and deprogram them so they can grow up healthy and functional like Dakota and Elle. Obvs, I'll retract this should those two girls put out a twincest sex tape in the next few years.

IssieCol
07-28-2012, 11:17 PM
I read somewhere earlier that US Weekly claims to have more pictures from May and June that they're gonna release next week. I'm guessing these are just pictures of her and RS hanging out and would have been considered harmless before now. Now that I've read so many opinions, I agree with the theory that they weren't messing around during filming, but started hooking up during promotion when his wife wasn't around.

isadora
07-30-2012, 03:09 PM
I'm reading a lot of conflicting reports!

Liberty has allegedly agreed to work it out (stupid, IMO), but her brother is quoted as saying that the affair went on for about 6 months. But those are from disreputable gossip sources (take that sentence for what you will). Also read that Rob told K to get out and thus the UHaul pics. And that they haven't spoken but for a few emotional text messages. Poor Rob! He really is heartbroken, I bet. But he seemingly had her on a pedestal and that's not the healthiest place for a girl to be. Nowhere to go but down, after all. I always get nervous when I hear friends say their new boyfriend treats them like a princess. Princesses live in castles (a kind of prison, IMO). I want to be treated like a real person, an equal. No idea if that was the case here but if he had idealized her that much then this kind of failure on her part would be nearly impossible to get over.

Also, I saw peeps on Twitter feeling guilty that they had some part in creating this Robsten media thing and that perhaps that same part ended up destroying it. I think that's rubbish! Fans didn't do anything to create an affair or to put pressure on Kristen Stewart. She is an adult who made some choices that were questionable. End of story. If she wanted to blame it on outside pressure it would be offensive and an attempt to absolve herself of her choices. You liked her, you liked him, you liked them together. Their very extreme secrecy created a frenzy of speculation anyway. They could have been slightly more open (they didn't have to give away the store) but fans are not the reason she cheated. She's the reason she cheated.

ophy
07-30-2012, 05:12 PM
but her brother is quoted as saying that the affair went on for about 6 months.

People just debunked that. Her family hasn't talked to anyone, that whole report about 'the affair went on for months' was totally fabricated.

I'd say maybe 80% of what is floating around is pure shit. I don't believe for a second that they were having a real affair, or that it went on during filming. It was definitely way more recent than that. I also believe that there wasn't 'actual' sex involved. Take that for what it's worth, but I do believe it (just from what I've read and heard).

The UHaul pics were also not real, but it does look like Rob might have asked Kristen to move her things out of that house. He's the one that bought it. I don't know that she has done any moving yet, though.

But yeah, looks like R&K are done for now, for reals. Not surprising. Who knows what next month will bring, though.

isadora
07-30-2012, 05:17 PM
You really don't think sex was involved? I find that a hard pill to swallow! Of course, the idea that you'd go pick up a dude who is not your boyfriend and drive around aimlessly and make out in public (being the most famous 22-year-old girl in the world) is so weird that I'm sure anything is possible!

Did Sanders' father talk to the media? I've seen that all over, too.

Radar just posted about R&K fighting over custody of their dog. If you did the cheating? Your ex gets the dog. That's just science.

ophy
07-30-2012, 05:38 PM
Radar hasn't gotten ANYTHING right yet, so no clue about the dog. But yeah, I'd just assume that whoever stays in the house will keep the dog, and it's more likely to be Rob keeping the house. I don't think you can take a dog to England without a long and painful quarantine, though, so if he decided to move back there instead of staying in LA, who knows? But my knowledge about taking dogs from US to the UK is entirely based on the pilot ep of Keen Eddie, so don't listen to me.

I don't know about RS's dad. If he did talk to them, and say what they say he said, that's sketchy as all fuck. Just weird. But hey, just add that to the long list of weird all around with this situation.

I read, by the way, that there wasn't any aimless driving. They were only in the one location. Apparently, a lot of the US Weekly report was crap. They had the pics, but no story, so they just made up a bunch of 'details' to fill the space.

And yes, I do believe the 'no sex' statement, but I totally understand if other people don't.

isadora
07-30-2012, 05:59 PM
Rando relatives and "friends" always speak to the press, even when they have no first hand knowledge of the situation.

I don't take anything I read in the gossip rags as anything more than tru enuf. I enjoy accepting about 3/4 of what I read as tru enuf, filling the rest in with my own ideas! Ha! Tru is subjective.

ophy
07-31-2012, 09:44 AM
http://erikachristakis.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/why-the-robsten-news-makes-us-sad/


Why the “Robsten” News Makes Us Sad
Posted on 07/30/2012
Here’s my Huffington Post take on the Kristen Stewart/Robert Pattinson imbroglio. This is not a snarky piece! I ‘m actually sad for them.

Background: my TIME.com editor killed this piece (It was supposed to be my column today) because I refused to do a ‘Why-do-we-blame-the-young-female-cheater-more-than-the-older-man-cheater?’ angle. Initially I agreed with her that there was a hint of Monica Lewinsky to this cheating episode. But then I realized come on, the Twilight fans are focusing on Kristen, not the unknown director, because she’s the highest paid actress in Hollywood and the fans love her and Pattinson as a couple. Of course they’re going to focus on her missteps, not the bland director guy’s. So I wrote a compassionate and pretty measured piece and… my editor killed it. Fortunately, however, HuffPo will take basically anything I send them! Voila…

Why the ‘Robsten’ Fail Makes Us Sad

Reality Bites. Fans reacted with predictable intensity to the news last week that Kristen Stewart was caught frolicking with her married 42-year-old director. Evidence that she had jilted her long-term boyfriend and co-star, Robert Pattinson, left some women suffering a grief response that appeared quirky, to say the least. The jaded press coverage has been equally one-note, with mockingdescriptions of distraught female fans taking to the streets in “sackcloth and ashes” and “a wave of hysteria not seen since Sigmund Freud set up shop in Vienna.”

But it’s not only the oddball Twilight fan base and rapacious press corps who find the story compelling. There’s something terribly poignant for everyone in this public and all-too-human drama.

The brazenness of the publicity-shy Stewart’s assignation in a public park caught the film world by surprise. Photos circulating both before and after the hookup suggested things were rock-solid in the “Robsten” household.

As Hollywood cheating scandals go, it’s a pedestrian one: No cultish mind control or prostitute-fueled benders, just a young actress — in thrall to her Svengali — who threw security to the wind and now lives to regret it. What made the story noteworthy — apart from the couple’s perch at the very top of the A-list — was the contrast with the actors’ long history of jealously-guarded privacy.

In this era of full disclosure, where celebrities like Beyoncé, Brad and Angelina, Alec Baldwin and Matthew McConnaughey are shilling their most intimate moments like car salesmen, there was something both touching and admirable about a young couple at the peak of fame so zealously protecting their relationship. They mostly kept to themselves, despite the chronic “gotcha” provocations and desperate “shippers” who wanted confirmatory evidence. We didn’t need couch-jumping TomKat antics to get the point. If their reticence occasionally seemed precious, their silence was also the greatest testament to their love.

It gave Stewart’s hastily announced public apology — which was immediately parsed for authorship and motivation — an aching authenticity that could only be the hallmark of youthful desperation: “I love him, I love him, I’m so sorry,” she doubly pleaded, apparently too late if reports of moving vans at their shared home are any clue. The wild breach of character actually gave some weight to her claim that it was all just a crazy mistake.

Whatever one thinks of cheating — and studies suggest a high degree of hypocrisy – it’s not hard to empathize with this couple; the coltish, Californian free spirit trying to mature under the glare of fame and the grateful middle class boy who brought his parents to Jay Leno gigs and carried British self-deprecation to Olympian heights. With their humor, good looks and, yes, talent, they seemed to embody both the extraordinary promise and the run of the mill quirks of youth. There was something lovable about their slouchy, goofy public appearances; the occasional stumbles (including the disproportionately harsh critique of their acting ability) only endeared them further to their fans and fueled the fantasy that what we were seeing onscreen — the promise of eternal love — could be echoed by real life.

But it was probably unfair to put such Herculean expectations on mere youthful mortals. (Stewart met Pattinson when she was 17.) In the reality-based world, youth is a major risk factor for the destruction of relationships. Harvard researcher Dana Rotz argues that increased age of marriage is the single biggest explanation for the dramatic decline in divorce over the last couple of decades. The interminable courtship of Prince William and Catherine Middleton seemed to confirm what most people already know: All things being equal, it’s a good idea to acquire experience and self-knowledge before committing to a lifetime partnership.

In fantasyland, things work a little differently. In the Twilight story, Pattinson’s Edward — older, more self-controlled — soldiers on with increasing masochism as the much younger Bella toys with (and kisses) another guy. Although omitted in the film version, Edward even offers his rival’s stud services so that his bride can experience motherhood without risking her life giving birth to a dangerous vampire hybrid.

In a later scene, he gamely fetches a bucket for his pregnant young wife while Jacob tenderly warms her body — something Edward can’t easily accomplish because of his cooler vampire temperature.

Pattinson had choice words for this tableau.

“Look, there are a lot of moments when Edward sort of acts like a p–y,” he joked. “Jacob’s like, ‘Hey, baby, you don’t look too bad to me, and I’m just sitting there with a bucket collecting [Bella's] vomit. That really wouldn’t happen. I should have thrown the vomit at him.”

Fair enough. But I can’t help rooting for these beautiful kids whose talent and money can’t insulate them from the slings and arrows of life.

Res
07-31-2012, 11:01 AM
An interesting take: KS should not have apologized (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/celebrity-news/kristen-stewart-should-not-have-apologized-and-heres-why/article4445416/)

It is strange when my sister is more up on the gossip than I am - - she said something about KS with another guy. deets people.

isadora
07-31-2012, 12:35 PM
The last few pages are nothing but deets, sister!

ophy
07-31-2012, 12:39 PM
That was actually an interesting perspective. But it just adds another layer of expectation, because it wants her to be the poster child for a post-patriarchy or something. Let her react the way she wants to.

Personally, I see her apology as meant for Rob, and not us at all. He wasn't taking her calls, he was refusing to communicate at all. She was just that desperate for him to hear her, and she knew he would this way. So it was an even more honest and personal reaction than what the author of that opinion piece wanted her to have.

I have no specific deets for you! But the gist is that Kristen got into a fucked up situation with her married 41yr old director. She may or may not have had sex with him (I lean towards not), but they were papped doing weird fully clothed things in the middle of the day. After the pics came out, she and Rob both left the house they were sharing, and nobody knows for sure if things are over for good between them. She did not leave Rob for this guy, and I doubt she will have anything to do with him (the director) again. He sounds like a skeevy fucker who likes his girls young and with daddy issues.

isadora
07-31-2012, 03:24 PM
Double post! WTF.

isadora
07-31-2012, 03:25 PM
My most favorite thing about the latest Us Weekly story (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kristen-stewarts-cheating-scandal-6-myths-about-her-fling-with-rupert-sanders-2012317)? The commenters! It's WAR up in there.

Somebody named "Rob's own jaded past" has a looooooooong laundry list of his alleged infidelities and people hate him/her! One even threatens libel suits because they can get the person's IP address.

This person is an EPIC Rob hater, it seems, because they seemed to have been building this case for a long time. It shows:

He’s been cheating since the start. He hooked up with Megan Fox AFTER the Twilight premiere in Tokyo when he first got together with Kristen. He was sleeping with Nikki Reed at the start of New Moon filming and Ashley Greene all throughout. He hooked up with that Erika Dutra chick in Cannes that year and Camilla Belle in NYC when she went to visit him there during Remember Me filming. There were rumors of him and Emilie de Ravin having and on-set fling that same summer during filming. He was cheating with Ashley Greene again during Eclipse filming that fall while Kristen was on set. [that would have been an impressive feat, honestly!] There were the rumors of him leaving Leighton Meester’s apartment in NYC early the next year. He cheated with some burlesque dancer Caroline Jones during Bel Ami filming in London causing him to be late for Eclipse reshoots and also his co-star Natalia Tena who he’d already had a history with before too.


Read more: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kristen-stewarts-cheating-scandal-6-myths-about-her-fling-with-rupert-sanders-2012317#ixzz22EGXJoiq

Rob Pattinson: Sleeping with every woman he ever met or worked with or was photographed with or smiled in the direction of...

And...


He cheated with Lindsay Lohan during Water for Elephants filming in LA that summer at Las Palmas and was photographed poolside with a bartender from Saddleranch crawling all over this lap poolside at a hotel that July after Kristen had already left for Montreal to being On the Road filming. There were rumors that he was going to co ke parties in Malibu and hooking up with sk anks like Teresa Palmer all that summer too. He was supposedly hooking up with Maggie Grace during Breaking Dawn filming while they were back in Vancouver spotted in her hotel while Kristen was back in LA. There was the Russian model Ana Colja who was interviewed saying how she’d been ‘close’ with Rob since attending the Oscars with him years back and they still saw each other all the time, hinting at a sexual relationship between the two. [Men and women can NEVER be friends, I guess.] He was said to have been hooking up with his director David Cronenberg’s youngest daughter Caitlin during Cosmopolis filming that summer, hitting lots of late night hot spots and parties, spreading their DNA all over Toronto together. [I LOVE that.]He was hooking up with LA bar sk anks like that Shea Marie [Why is the word sk ank always split up like that?] chick who tweeted she shared “Jameson and Gingers” with him at Jimmy Fallon’s Emmy after-party and went back to Rob’s house to hang out following. There were all the bars he was hitting in LA closing them down at 3-4am every night while Kristen was busy in London filming Snow White and the Huntsman, girls tweeting about sharing drinks and cigarettes with him on the patio and flirting with him. He only visited Kristen one time during filming and not again until the very end after they finished their international promo tour for Breaking Dawn 1.
Read more: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kristen-stewarts-cheating-scandal-6-myths-about-her-fling-with-rupert-sanders-2012317#ixzz22EHvyHxC

Somebody has been keeping score, yo! How exhaustive is this list? But it's STILL NOT OVER.


There were the Sarah Roemer hook up rumors that she went home with him from Soho House after they’d been partying with friends all night there and at La Poubelle. There were the Katy Perry texting stories that he’d been trying to console and hook up with her after her break up with Russel Brand–something that Kristen completely covered for him for I might add. [No friend has ever innocently texted another friend going through a painful break-up! LOL] There were the Lindsay Lohan cheating rumors AGAIN after that (didn’t believe those were true though-Linsday is too gross now even for bottom feeders like Pattinson). Some of this sh it is going to come to light and it’s going to bite Rob in the azz if he dumps Kristen for this thing with her director. This is not going to go away and it’s going to get worse for him before it gets better. If he forgives he and takes her back (at least publicly) he might be able to avoid the backlash. Otherwise they’re going to start coming out of the woodwork against him and it’s going to be Tiger Woods all over again. She’s the one who got caught, but he’s been doing it for a long long LONG time before this. While none of these rumors of him hooking up with other woman has been 100% proven WITH PICTURES (because there have been multiple sightings by fans and others of him with these and other women), he’s only gotten a free pass on all this so far because Kristen has always stuck by him through it all and looked the other way despite the constant cheating talk about him.
Read more: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kristen-stewarts-cheating-scandal-6-myths-about-her-fling-with-rupert-sanders-2012317#ixzz22EIhCTsN

I love this person so much. Mostly just for being able to spew all that over the course of three posts in quick succession! I couldn't even recount my own romantic encounters in quick, chronological order!

IssieCol
07-31-2012, 03:37 PM
That's better than any chronological DK and The J post I've ever been able to do, and that includes the ones that I did Google research for! I bet this girl's grudge lists are AMAZING. Lainey just posted a link to this (http://operationhideusweekly.tumblr.com/) awesome fan project. Can you imagine how fucking annoying it would be to do cleanup at Walmart with these retards doing stupid shit like this? I could not roll my eyes hard enough. And it wouldn't surprise me if they put them in gross places, like the bathrooms and wrote in all of them so that they're unsellable.

About Rob, though, didn't Ted or someone say that he had been cheating on KStew for ages? I just can't see that at all. He seems so devoted to her. But then I didn't think she would cheat either, so eh, clearly I know nothing.

And why does she have daddy issues? No one's answered that one yet. Is her dad an asshole?

ophy
07-31-2012, 04:10 PM
I haven't heard that he is an asshole, not at all.

Her family is very absentee. Her parents are her 'cool friends', not real parents who set boundaries and rules. And her folks split up in a messy way (with cheating rumors abounding) sometime in the past 12 months, I think, and neither one of them seems involved in her life at the moment. Her mom didn't even bother to show up when Kristen did her handprint ceremony. It's kind of a weird family dynamic. Her brothers have mostly turned out to be aimless and kind of fucked up, too.

Her dad seems like the kind of dad who will sit down and smoke a bowl with you, not the kind that is, like, a real dad who gives you guidance and stuff.

Kristen generally seems to see her co-workers on film sets as her family, and her directors become her parental figures, and the people she looks to for approval and love. This whole situation has me wondering if something sketchy happened when she was a kid, with one of her male directors way back when she was a child star and even more vulnerable.

I am seriously side eyeing everyone she ever worked with back then.

ETA I don't think Ted ever said Rob was a cheater, but Ted lost his source and credibility awhile back, so who knows what kind of shit he's made up to try and stay relevant. I don't think there's ever, ever, ever been a credible report of Rob straying, and he's on record as being very anti-cheating. "I don't understand why people cheat, I'll never understand it, etc."

isadora
07-31-2012, 05:36 PM
I side eye people who let their children be in movies. I'm sorry, but it's just not a healthy way to raise a child. Fine, let them be in commercials (in a limited way--only in the summer, maybe), local productions (so long as you can supervise), plays, school productions, etc. all day long. But a TV series or movie sets (or anything that allows them tons of unsupervised time around rich and famous people? Never. To pursue fame for your child is insane, IMO, no matter how much they "want" it. They are not qualified to make those kinds of decisions at that age.

BreezyK
08-01-2012, 10:23 AM
Hmmm, I always though Jodie Foster would sort of look out for KStew after costarring with her in her first big Hollywood film. Lord knows, Jodie experienced enough Hollywood craziness that she would maybe want to shield other kids from it, but then again, she's apparently still friends with Mel Gibson, so maybe she's not the mature, levelheaded actress that I had hoped.

isadora
08-01-2012, 10:29 AM
I adore Jodie Foster but she is not sane. She's been crazy for decades. A quiet, kind of sit in her car alone all day and cry kind of crazy. But still.

And Mel Gibson must be one charming bastard to have so many so deeply faithful to him.

ophy
08-01-2012, 10:45 AM
Yeah, and the latest rumor is that Jodie has reached out to Kristen in support this week. But it's not a credible one, so who knows.

I don't think Kristen and Jodie have been super close buds over the years or anything. I mean, I'm sure the relationship is a perfectly decent one, but I doubt Kristen would have run to Jodie Foster, Big Busy Star (as she was back then), every time a director made her feel uncomfortable, or sexualized her in some way.

The other non-credible rumor floating around is that Rob asked Reese if he could hide out at her ranch in Ojai. Possible, I guess. Might make some sense that he'd want to go somewhere sort of remote.

Also, it looks like he is scaling back the promo stuff he was supposed to do for Cosmopolis, having his people perhaps cancel appearances and interviews. I say 'perhaps' because nobody seems to know if he was actually confirmed for those things in the first place. But at least one journo has def tweeted that her interview with Rob for mid-August was canceled.

isadora
08-01-2012, 10:47 AM
Two important things in this story. (http://gawker.com/5930787/penguin-imprint-picks-up-twilight-fanfic-for-substantial-seven-figures-orders-500k-copies)
1. Publisher paying celebrity author advances to fanfic that was later self-pubbed (SEVEN FIGURES).
2. Fifty Shades Of Grey, which itself began life as Twilight fanfic, has just surpassed the last book in JK Rowling's Harry Potter series to become Amazon UK's bestselling book of all time. <--I MEAN REALLY.

Did anybody here read "The University of Edward Masen" as fic?

ophy
08-01-2012, 10:53 AM
I did! More than half of it before I gave up.

It was (pretentious) shit.

Porn, porn and more porn. With an academic twist. Oh, and angsty in very much the same way as 50 Shades. As in, over the top bad melodrama 'I'm so damaged and broody and such an asshole because I'm damaged and broody yada yada yawn'. It's practically 50 Shades, only with a super rich professor instead of a super rich CEO, and with a Bella that's all damaged, too.

I guess it was really only time before wife porn bubbled up from the fic underground and went mainstream. It kind of makes me sad, though, now that money is involved. Fic was a goofy little secret there for awhile, and now it just seems sordid to me. Like a fun party girl that turned into a sad prostitute. Oh wait, I think I have read that fic, too.

isadora
08-01-2012, 11:05 AM
I haaaaaaaaaaate alt-u fic. I don't know if I'm in the minority on this or not but good fic is relatively authentic to the place and character of the source material. I remember there were a few popular alt-u DC fics and I refused to read them despite the heaps of praise they garnered. Because if I wanted to read a story about Pacey and Joey set during the depression...well I don't want to read that at all! Still don't.

ophy
08-01-2012, 11:17 AM
Yeah. I went through a phase where I read a ton of AU Twific, but then realized the characters were getting farther and farther away from the actual twi characters, and I started to wonder well, hell . . . why don't I just read real books then?

And then it seemed like every twi fic was getting so ANGSTY and I got tired of all of it, and now I don't read any fic at all.

I enjoy writing TVD fic, but I can't imagine wanting to write all human TVD. A Damon that isn't a vampire . . . what would be the freaking point?

isadora
08-01-2012, 01:51 PM
It's gossip day!

Quick update for those of you not following this on every blog on earth: Rob stays at Reese's estate (just as a spread on the estate hits Elle Decor); he was horrified by the public apology; has no fucking clue if he should take her back; has been reading Internet too much and is back to smoking. (http://laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/24237/Robert-Pattinson-still-deciding-if-he-will-forgive-Kristen-Stewart-at-Reese-Witherspoon%E2%80%99s)

roly
08-01-2012, 02:14 PM
My favorite thing about the "hiding at Reese's" story are the comments I've seen that suggest Reese is poised to use her star power to completely destroy KStew's career. I know this story involves fancy, pretty people, but it's not frigging Melrose Place. I highly doubt Reese Witherspoon is suddenly going to be stomping all over Hollywood threatening to blacklist anyone who works with Kristen Stewart again. It's about as believable as that stupid Charlize Theron story I posted a few pages ago.

isadora
08-01-2012, 03:55 PM
If I were Charlize? I might be pissed! Partly because I'm older than K-Stew and I better understand what it means to fuck around with an older, married guy with little kids and a (seemingly) sad and lonely wife.

I also think that, far from being pissed because her sequel chances are ruined (I haven't seen the movie; her character might not make it), this would mean a major reshuffling of BtS peeps and could mean that people downstream who have nothing to do with the glamorous lives of cheating celebs will lose out on their chance to enjoy the franchise gravy train. But that's total speculation on my part!

Also read that Jode Foster reached out to K-Stew to be like: shit happens, sorry bb. Believable enuf for me.

The idea that Reese could/would crush K-Stew is laughable, tho. I mean, people in H'wood seem pretty laid back about personal foibles. They line up to be in Roman Polanski and Woody Allen movies. Of course, they didn't break Robert Pattinson's heart.

ophy
08-01-2012, 05:24 PM
Scans of People, if anyone wants to see it: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/kfys8ux8oyx0z96j7vwm9gok1z3ksgcd/

No idea what is and isn't true in there.

Res
08-01-2012, 05:53 PM
The last few pages are nothing but deets, sister!

Oh, I'd read all that stuff. But my sister said that she had read something online that claimed KStew was also screwing a Snow White scriptwriter. Up until that little morsel I thought I was up to date.

But I think I'm caught up now - - for what it is worth.

Is, I don't see Jodie Foster as being crazy. What is the story with that?

isadora
08-01-2012, 07:43 PM
Oh, gurl. The whole Hinckley thing broke her as a person. She was super young and smart and it made her a paranoid shut-in, basically. I mean, she's had tons of time and probably therapy to process and I hope she's in a better place but there was this amazing article (prolly Movieline) back before the interwebz. She was in the midst of her "comeback" after going away to college and living life for a few years and she admitted to all kinds of bananas behaviors (stars were so unguarded in the 90s) and I remember part of the interview taking place in her car and her admitting that she spent A LOT of time just sitting her car because it was her haven/safe space. And the interviewer (in the post-Sassy mag celebrity interview days) was like actively worried for her mental health. It was amazing.

So she's quietly crazy, if that makes sense. She keeps her shit on the DL because of the the gay (and she's old school in that you kept that to yo'self if you wanted a career. She also never talks about anything personal and stays out of the spotlight (in part because her honesty probably burned her with Movieline back in the day).

DAMN, Movieline had GREAT interviews. Drew Barrymore was the best, too! She dished like crazy back then.

IssieCol
08-01-2012, 10:33 PM
I read somewhere a long time ago that one of the reasons Foster stays tight with Mel Gibson is because he was super protective and supportive of her back in her mega fragile days. Same with RDJ. Apparently Mel fought for him to be in Air America back when no one wanted to hire him. But really, how could anyone have guessed that Mel would turn out to be so angry and crazy?

isadora
08-02-2012, 12:07 PM
I think Mel Gibson even paid RDJ's insurance out of his own pocket to get him in the movie. Apparently, he's always been exceptionally nice, protective, and close to other actors.

I read *something* about Jodie and Mel and I can't remember what it was now. He helped her at a point when they hadn't even worked together...I don't remember the scenario now! Damn!

BreezyK
08-02-2012, 04:32 PM
HA, in this Vulture story (http://www.vulture.com/2012/08/kristen-stewart-lands-lead-role-in-lie-down-in-darkness.html) about Kristen's new role a commenter called "Rob's Sordid Past" just posted word for word the SAME attack that isadora outlined on the last page. Hilarious.

Res
08-02-2012, 04:35 PM
Yeah - I've heard the Mel/RDJ story before. Stuff like that makes me wonder where the hell the crazy came from, ya know?

I just remember Jodie being private - - even before Hinkley, IIR. - - so when she got some award and thanked her wife it was a huge thing. Of course they broke up shortly afterwards.

ophy
08-02-2012, 05:25 PM
The new role sounds like, um . . . not a good idea given her fragile mental state, maybe?

She's going to go straight from fucked up psychologically damaged character in Cali to fucked up psychologically damaged character in Darkness.

Brilliant idea, Kristen. Maybe a stint in rehab in between?

*note: I have no actual knowledge of anything KS might need rehab for. It was just a suggestion.

IssieCol
08-02-2012, 06:23 PM
Maybe these roles can be kind of cathartic for her? I remember MW giving an interview a while back and she was asked why she only played depressed sad sacks all the time and she said that those were the emotions she was relating to in her real life and that she was able to work through them in some way by playing all of those parts. If KStew is indeed in the early stages of spiraling, maybe channeling all of that angst she's feeling into her work can help her sort out everything in a healthier way than having to living it out in her real life? I don't know, just guessing.

jennk
08-04-2012, 07:26 PM
Radar is reporting Rob banned Kristen from the Cosmopolis premiere and that "security was briefed." Obviously I know Radar has just been making shit up, but this one cracks me up. Like, is Kristen likely to scale a fence or drop in on a wire? If she were to show up (which, why would she go if he didn't want her there) she would be pretty easy to spot. Also, how do premieres work? Do all celebrities just decide that day that they feel like showing up or do they have to be invited?

ophy
08-04-2012, 08:54 PM
That is an absolutely ridiculous story. The amount of stuff people are making up just goes to show how locked down R&K's teams are now being. It's making the outlets totally desperate to come up with anything.

jennk
08-04-2012, 09:01 PM
There seems to be no real news right now. Which is why there are multiple reports that say things like, "Kristen is depressed and hasn't showered and is eating a lot of ice cream." No news on what flavor though, so I'll keep my google alert on.

ophy
08-04-2012, 09:31 PM
The prevalent theory is that Kristen was letting her team do some talking because that was the only way she could get her major message out to Rob ("I love you and I did not have sex with him"). And that Rob was letting his team do some talking because he was paralyzed with indecision and shock. But now that R&K are supposedly communicating with each other again, they have made their teams shut the hell up.

isadora
08-04-2012, 11:14 PM
That sounds about right to me, o.

I saw that hilarious "K-Stew banned!" story. How absurd. First of all: The PR team would give both nuts and all reproductive organs to get those two both at the premiere of that movie so that idea that she'd be "banned" is absurd. I can just see her going in all secret squirrel? Insane.

isadora
08-04-2012, 11:54 PM
Oh, man this is a bad story! Shouldn't Rob's people be clamping stories like this down?
Rob Pattinson is angry that his estranged girlfriend Kristen Stewart is staying with her producer pal Giovanni Agnelli and suspicious of his motive in taking her in.

RadarOnline.com broke the news that the Twilight beauty had been staying with Agnelli since fleeing from the home she shared with Pattinson.

"Rob knows Agnelli and has been calling him a lot since Kristen has been there," an insider tells us exclusively.

"He wants to know why Kristen is staying there at his house? He is super angry now and has accused Giovanni of sleeping with Kristen too."

As RadarOnline.com has been reporting, Stewart and Pattison split after her affair with her married Snow White and the Huntsman directer Rupert Sanders was revealed.

Angelli produced 2010's Welcome to the Rileys which starred Kristen and James Gandolfini.

"Giovanni got a call from Pattinson around four this morning, threatening him if he has been sleeping with Kristen," the source says. "Rob is beside himself over Kristen's betrayal. No one has ever seen him like this."


Reports also say that Liberty has not taken Rupert back with open arms. So who knows...

emmaleigh
08-04-2012, 11:56 PM
hophay is wise. ;)

This girl breaks my damn heart though. Crying, fighting, lifting her shirt, touching strange men, and generally looking like she's on another planet. http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/u36v1fv5vxpyj5o02pmhfx2vrlq34ioz/2

WTAF. :( http://www.imagebam.com/image/07666c204449330

HOW DID HE NOT SEE THIS?! And then I think about them at the Bobby Long show and how protective he was of her and he probably did see *it* but didn't know what *it* was and then I get sad for them both.

But fandom is starting to be hopeful again. Which can't possibly end well but hope dies last. /dramatic.

Also clinging to this: http://blindgossip.com/?p=46337

isadora
08-05-2012, 12:10 AM
I totally believe she's not showering and sobbing a lot. I mean, I don't think the hobos were big on showering before anyway! Hee!

She looks high as a kite in those pics of her making weird gestures at the paps.

I actually believe he will forgive her in the near term as crazy as that sounds. I don't know that they'll last until she's 30 or whatever but I really think he won't be able to take the proximity that the next few months demands without giving it another go.

Y'all have made me a believer in Tru Hobo Love!

jennk
08-05-2012, 01:14 AM
I don't know about those pictures though. Maybe there is more context or description of her behavior that I'm not aware of, but just seeing the pictures it could be anything. Even the pictures that look like she's crying look like she could have just been rubbing her eyes. She does look high in those pictures, but who even knows. I much prefer video if we're going to analyze her behavior. It's hard to tell if she's angry or playful or mocking in those pictures.

I am not so much invested in the relationship as I am interested in the gossip (sorry), but I'm definitely coming around on Kristen as a person and would like to see them happy, whether that is apart or together.

ophy
08-06-2012, 10:48 AM
More form Gossip Cop busting the rumors:
http://www.gossipcop.com/kristen-stewart-scandal-rumors-robert-pattinson-giovanni-angelli-reports-fact-fiction/

Although it’s been nearly two weeks since Kristen Stewart’s indiscretion was revealed, outlets are still spewing forth a series of fabricated stories.

Through it all, Gossip Cop has been busy working — sometimes triple time — to investigate what’s fact and what’s fiction about Stewart, Robert Pattinson, and others affected by the developments.

Here is the latest Gossip Cop has learned from our sources:

(1) RadarOnline reported earlier in the week that Stewart has been “banished” from the New York premiere of Pattinson’s movie Cosmopolis on August 13. The webloid said there was a fear the actress would crash the event, and “security staff have been told to keep her away from the red carpet and after party… in fear she may use it as an excuse to speak with R-Pattz in person.” There isn’t a single iota of truth to the story. Gossip Cop spoke with numerous people involved with the premiere, and they all say the RadarOnline story is a complete, made-out-of-thin-air lie.

(2) There was much talk, too, about Stewart being cast in Lie Down in Darkness. RadarOnline reported Stewart “has been reveling in the glory of beating The Hunger Games beauty, Jennifer Lawrence — whom she sees as her biggest rival — to the lead role in the big screen adaptation of William Styron’s novel.” The site added that Stewart even “danced a jig of delight when she found out she beat Jennifer Lawrence to a movie role.” One teensy weeny problem: While Stewart is in the running for the lead of Peyton Loftis, no one has been cast yet in the movie, according a source involved in the film’s production. No way to dance around that flub. Oops.

(3) A number of sites including HollywoodLies, er, HollywoodLife picked up another RadarOnline piece that stated Stewart is now staying with Welcome to the Rileys producer Giovanni Agnelli. It’s true Stewart and Agnelli are pals, but she is NOT staying with him, multiple source confirm to Gossip Cop.

(4) Following up on that report, RadarOnline — which clearly hasn’t been very reliable about any of the parties involved — claimed a “super angry” Pattinson has has been “calling [Agnelli] a lot since Kristen has been there,” and has “accused Giovanni of sleeping with Kristen too.” Building on its fabricated story that Stewart is staying with Agnelli — which she is NOT – the webloid upped the ante and said Pattinson accused them of “having [an] affair.” Enough! This is ALL NOT TRUE.

Obviously, this is a tough time for everyone, but it need not be complicated by manufactured stories about Pattinson and Stewart.

Nevertheless, Gossip Cop will continue to provide updated, factual news as well as correct the avalanche of inaccurate rumors.

Now that I know the extent to which news outlets just make up shit out of absolutely nothing, I'm not going to be able to read celeb gossip the same again. I'm flabbergasted at how they just boldly lie like crazy. No ore thinking 'where's there's smoke there's fire!'

I'm not even sure Travolta is gay anymore, that's how much this R&K stuff is affecting the way I look at this shit.

isadora
08-06-2012, 06:25 PM
I think the online rags are worse about printing straight-up lies than the print ones (except Life & Style--nobody seems to take them seriously at all) because they are driven to feed the beast daily while People/Us only need to feed the beast weekly.

I am DYING for Cosmo press to begin and for this whole BD2 bsns to get started because FOR REALS THAT WILL BE SOME SERIOUSLY FASCINATING SHIT. I will be bittah if y'all just drop the Robsten ball at this important time. Hee! I will NEED updates because you all have the deets before I even know wheres to look.

IssieCol
08-06-2012, 10:05 PM
Will Ferrell's Twihard impression made me laugh SO hard. That is all the news I've absorbed this week.

"YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW!!!"

isadora
08-08-2012, 06:14 PM
So, K-Stew allegedly pulled out of the On The Road red carpet (saw it on Radar, take with grain of salt) but does that mean she is going into hiding like some 18th century heroine on her period? I mean, I get that it would be awkward but will she just bail on all media for the rest of her life? I'm wondering if Bella Swan will be missing from all Twi promotion that isn't heavily controlled.

emmaleigh
08-09-2012, 01:13 AM
Oh, Radar. She never had any plans to attend the On the Road UK premiere (she was going to be filming) so that's Radar making something out of nothing but she did officially drop out of her next movie that was to start shooting in two weeks and thank the sweet lord for that. Best news I've heard all week. Well, second best.

They're on the cover of EW as E/B this week. Summit says they're going full steam ahead with all the promo. The next couple months will be *very* interesting but the longer Kristen stays out of sight, the better AFAIC.

ophy
08-09-2012, 07:54 AM
Yeah, dropping out of Cali was a good move, definitely.

I care nothing about her career, except how her career affects her mental state, of course. Girl just needs to take care of whatever is going on first. Things have gotten weird the past few months, so time to put it all on pause.

But you know me, I only care about them as people - don't care if they never make movies again, just as long as their lives are happy and stable. Starting to think they both should drop out of any fame-making gigs and go off and start that British Hobo Collective compound on the Isle of Wright that I've always wanted to see. They don't have to be together romantically to be co-founders of a bohemian artists 'colony!

I'd prefer that over having them wear themselves down making movies that I'm never going to see or care about - and tbh, you know I'm never going to see the kinds of gritty indie things Kristen likes to make - and I'm not likely to see Cosmopolis, 'cuz eh. The only non-twi film of R&K's that I have seen has been [i]Runaways[i] and that was totes due to em. Oh, and HP5, but duh.

isadora
08-09-2012, 11:05 AM
I almost think they will pull a Bela and Edward. She kissed a werewolf and they got married with a quickness.

ophy
08-09-2012, 11:07 AM
That would not really surprise me.

isadora
08-09-2012, 12:06 PM
I don't even know them but I think it's highly plausible.

Except that Rob isn't as emo as Edward. So he might have too much pride. But if he didn't have to face the entire world? They'd probably already be wedding planning. I actually know people in real life that did stuff like this in their 20s and are married now and have like 10 kids and they lie about their own romantic timeline to their friends families (as if we don't ALL know and were actually THERE at the time).

emmaleigh
08-09-2012, 12:20 PM
Nothing would surprise me at this point. Including marriage and babies with a quickness. But I legit hope she's talked to someone. I can't imagine burning your whole life down and not seeking some outside counseling in the aftermath. Especially bc her friends, family, team, and basically anyone around her who isn't Rob, sucks.

roly
08-14-2012, 10:43 AM
What, no one watched the Daily Show last night? I DVR'd it so I haven't seen it yet but I'm eager for all y'alls analysis of RPattz's demeanor, etc.

ophy
08-14-2012, 11:21 AM
Not watching, don't plan to. Poor kid.

By all accounts, he handled himself well. The word I've seen used is 'classy'. He rang the bell at the NYSE this morning, too.

NeoMaxy
08-14-2012, 11:54 AM
I watched it without knowing he'd be the guest.

isadora
08-14-2012, 12:32 PM
It's on the DVR but everybody said he was his usual awkward self.

Honestly, having to go and do publicity first would be enough to make me kinda hate her if I were him. I mean, why should he have to be put through it publicly like that? Sure, Jon Stewart is not going to go there in a real way--but to deal with people yelling weird questions at you at public events? UGH. That makes me feel so bad for him! He did nothing to deserve that and it sucks that he has to deal with it publicly at all! And I would say that regardless of who the celebrity is, even if we hadn't been monitoring him closely for years. He's just trying to promote his indie movie and her behavior has basically tainted all promotion through the end of the year for him! He's going to have to put up with this for MONTHS ON END.

Now that it's here? I feel even worse for him (though I'm looking forward to the awkward BTS gossip when the movie hits full title promo this fall I still feel terrible for him that he has to be subjected to public scrutiny--be it sympathy or nosiness or attempts to humiliate).

emmaleigh
08-14-2012, 12:40 PM
Rob was classy and did the best he could IMO; Stewart was a dick who would not let it go.
He used "break up" several times and Rob never did nor did he take the bait. And Rob kept bringing up Twilight and deflecting with ice-cream.

And also Kristen's living in hell right now in almost every way imaginable so I really don't see the purpose of kicking her when she's down. (Not that anyone here is doing that, that's a general comment about media coverage.)

Fortunately I have every reason to think that up until he left for NYC he was with her and will be again soon. Regardless of what it looks like to the public.

isadora
08-14-2012, 12:49 PM
So you for sure think it's back on? Is this insider-y or spec on your part?

They will probably go from being like bigfoot to being like ninjas now. So, clearly, I'm interested. For some reason secret relationships are so fascinating to me. Hee!

I think having to go and do the promo and all that would be like ripping a fresh scab off and starting over from seeing the pics again. But I am a save face at all costs kind of person so I don't really think I could take her back. I couldn't handle it. I'm honestly amazed at people who can move on from that when it becomes public knowledge. If nobody knew? I'd be able to get over it. It's the WHOLE WORLD looking in that would drive me away.

ophy
08-14-2012, 05:37 PM
I do like this interview with Rob and Cronenberg:
http://robpattinson.blogspot.com/2012/08/rob-and-cronenberg-talk-about.html

Q:Before we wrap up—forgive me for this, Robert, but I have to ask: What is it like to have millions of people worrying about you and hoping you’re OK?
RP: I guess if people think they’re worried about you, it’s sweet. It’s kind of odd.

DC: They’re reacting to what they think they know, but they don’t know. And they have a huge investment in so many lives that they aren’t connected with at all. Talk about a disconnect.

RP: But at the same time, the world is a pretty cruel place, so whatever inspires people to suddenly feel this kindness, hopefully they’ll look at themselves and they’ll look at their own lives and realize, [awestruck, Eureka-moment voice] “I have the ability to—to empathize with people!”


Q: “My ability to empathize with a total stranger has helped me empathize with people I actually know!”
RP: “Hey, I’ve learned something!”

ophy
08-14-2012, 09:00 PM
So it was just announced today that a Snow White and The Hunstman sequel *will* go ahead . . . but without Kristen. Probably *with* Rupert Sanders, though. It'll be an offshoot with just the Huntsman character. Um, good luck with that, dudes.


It was most likely her decision to bow out of a sequel (I mean, duh), but the tabs and media are going to say that the studio dropped *her*, and sided with Rupert. Whatever.

isadora
08-14-2012, 09:38 PM
I thought that the proposed "sequel" to this movie was always supposed to be about the Hunstman? I read awhile ago that she'd have a minor role, at most. Am I crazy?

IssieCol
08-14-2012, 11:53 PM
Yeah, I thought that was always the plan, too. I know I read it somewhere way before the cheating business was revealed. The studio probably wants to see if they can capitalize off of Thor/Avengers while the elder Hemsworth is still in the middle of those franchises.

If anything, I'm glad that RPattz can at least get the early round of questions out of the way now before the real shit storm hits during Twilight promotion. If his team was smart, they'd coach him through this round and tell him to treat it like practice for the big game coming in October.

ophy
08-15-2012, 08:19 AM
It was supposed to be three movies in total . . . the second one was still going to be Snow White focused, and the third one was going to be Huntsman focused. Which is why they retained the screenwriter from the first one to do the second one. When they decided to just do the more Hemsworthy option, they had to buy the screenwriter out of his contract and drop him as well, which was pricey. But they will save a bundle by cutting Kristen, because she would definitely be the most expensive line item. Again, I don't think this was the studio's decision, I think it was absolutely Kristen's decision. But the media is an asshole collectively.

Even my favorite showrunner is seeing though this one:
julieplec ‏@julieplec
The scandal is not that kstew isn't doing the sequel, but that H'wood is spinning as though she was fired. #grossdoublestandard #idontbuyit

Go Fug Yourself ‏@fuggirls
@julieplec More baffling: the rumor they're keeping HIM. She's a mixed-up 22 yr old, y'all; he's a jerk w life experience to know better -H

ETA This article probably has the right of it (although I don't know that I agree that Kristen is a bad fit for this franchise overall, and this guy seems to be biased against her anyway):
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/a-full-day-of-snow-white-speculation-reveals-the-tabloid-appetites-of-hollywood-press

You can't be fired from a job that doesn't exist.

Today has been a long day of hysterical headlines and wild overreaction to what basically amounts to a non-story, a re-confirmed detail that has been combined with one new piece of information, slathered in rumor, and then served up in a mixture that is designed to outrage and drive page views, but which seems to me to point out one of the fundamental flaws of entertainment "news" as a whole.

David Koepp was hired to write a sequel to "Snow White and the Huntsman." That's true. David Koepp is now moving on, presumably to some other high-profile job, as Universal tries to decide what, if anything, they're going to do with the script.

Let's imagine we lived in a world where "Snow White and the Huntsman" was a giant megahit and people were genuinely asking for a sequel. Let's imagine that in that version of the film, Kristen Stewart felt like an organic piece of the overall world and not a momentarily hot actress shoehorned into a franchise role that ill fits her. Let's imagine that there's a scandal involving her and the filmmaker and the studio decided to fire her as a way of scolding her for her sexual indiscretion while they reward the filmmaker with another job. That would be a situation worth reporting on, and it would be a fairly damning course of action by Universal Studios.

That didn't happen, though. That version of the narrative is fiction. That version of the story, printed and reprinted today like some journalistic game of telephone, is nonsense. We know that for several reasons. First, Universal has been developing several versions of the sequel since well before the film was released to theaters. They decided to at least develop a draft of the script where Snow White was not in the film and the Huntsman became the main character instead. In April, Ron Meyer talked about those plans briefly in an interview he gave about the studio's franchises and their overall approach to big tentpole films.

Right now, Universal has no firm plans for what they're going to do. Rupert Sanders has not been hired to make the second film. Kristen Stewart has not been fired from making the second film. There is not a script that has been agreed upon. No greenlight has been given. There are any number of questions that still exist before they even decide if they'll make a follow-up, much less which version they're going to make.

So why so much outrage today? I think people want to believe the idea that Hollywood is going to punish the sexually active young woman while rewarding the cheating husband. I think people like that version of the story because it allows them to rail about how sexually screwed up Hollywood is and how the institutionalized misogyny punishes actresses in ways that actors don't have to deal with, and while all of that might actually be the case, this is not that story. This is not that situation. This is not worth the energy expended today, and yet here I am writing about it because I see so much misinformation bouncing around out there.

I like many of the reporters who work at The Hollywood Reporter, but this is the same outlet that insists that every single story about the Aurora tragedy has "'Dark Knight' shooting" in the headline. I think that's a disgusting example of how the pursuit of the best possible SEO headlines is starting to turn even trustworthy news sources into gossip mongers and liars. It is at the very least misleading to build the headline around the breathless news that Kristen Stewart has been "dropped," since that is not the new information today. David Koepp leaving the project is new. That's it. Other than that, Kim Masters didn't break news today. She simply repackaged it, sensationalized it, and caused a huge firestorm over the headline.

The LA Times ran a straight-up denial of the story, which reads more defensive than it should, but based on the fury that was directed at Universal Studios today, I can see why they felt like they needed to be defensive. Honestly… just apply logic to the situation. Is Rupert Sanders a box-office draw? Nope. Is Kristen Stewart? Arguably. When they're making the big decisions on the next film, box-office is going to be far more important to that conversation that who did what with who in a marital indiscretion.

This is what happens when tabloid sensationalism starts to bleed into business reporting. Lines get blurred and we get this sort of speculative accusatory blather repeated and repeated and repeated, each new indignant piece making it sound even worse.

How about we take a step back, let Universal figure out if they even want to make another movie, and then wait to see who they cast and in what roles. If they hire someone else to play Snow White, that's a story. That's a specific choice. Short of that, I think people who spent today wagging their fingers at Universal and scolding them should examine why they want to believe the worst of the studio, and why they're so invested in what is, at heart, a story about a broken marriage and a personal betrayal.

ophy
08-15-2012, 09:42 AM
Jodie Foster speaks out:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/15/jodie-foster-blasts-kristen-stewart-robert-pattinson-break-up-spectacle.html
We’ve all seen the headlines at the check-out counter. “Kristen Stewart Caught.” We’ve all thumbed the glossy pages here and there. “Kris and Rob a couple?” We all catch the snaps. “I like that dress. I hate the hair. Cute couple. Bad shoes.” There’s no guilt in acknowledging the human interest in public linens. It’s as old as the hills. Lift up beautiful young people like gods and then pull them down to earth to gaze at their seams. See, they’re just like us. But we seldom consider the childhoods we unknowingly destroy in the process.


I have been an actress since I was 3 years old, 46 years to date. I have no memories of a childhood outside the public eye. I am told people look to me as a success story. Often complete strangers approach me and ask, How have you stayed so normal, so well-adjusted, so private? I usually lie and say, “Just boring I guess.” The truth is, like some curious radioactive mutant, I have invented my own gothic survival tools. I have fashioned rules to control the glaring eyes. Maybe I’ve organized my career choices to allow myself (and the ones I truly love) maximum personal dignity. And yes, I have neurotically adapted to the gladiator sport of celebrity culture, the cruelty of a life lived as a moving target. In my era, through discipline and force of will, you could still manage to reach for a star-powered career and have the authenticity of a private life. Sure, you’d have to lose your spontaneity in the elaborate architecture. You’d have to learn to submerge beneath the foul air and breathe through a straw. But at least you could stand up and say, I will not willfully participate in my own exploitation. Not anymore. If I were a young actor or actress starting my career today in the new era of social media and its sanctioned hunting season, would I survive? Would I drown myself in drugs, sex, and parties? Would I be lost?

I’ve said it before and I will say it again: if I were a young actor today I would quit before I started. If I had to grow up in this media culture, I don’t think I could survive it emotionally. I would only hope that someone who loved me, really loved me, would put their arm around me and lead me away to safety. Sarah Tobias would never have danced before her rapists in The Accused. Clarice would never have shared the awful screaming of the lambs to Dr. Lecter. Another actress might surely have taken my place, opened her soul to create those characters, surrendered her vulnerabilities. But would she have survived the paparazzi peering into her windows, the online harassment, the public humiliations, without overdosing in a hotel room or sticking her face with needles until she became unrecognizable even to herself?

Acting is all about communicating vulnerability, allowing the truth inside yourself to shine through regardless of whether it looks foolish or shameful. To open and give yourself completely. It is an act of freedom, love, connection. Actors long to be known in the deepest way for their subtleties of character, for their imperfections, their complexities, their instincts, their willingness to fall. The more fearless you are, the more truthful the performance. How can you do that if you know you will be personally judged, skewered, betrayed? If you’re smart, you learn to willfully disassociate, to compartmentalize. Putting your emotions into a safety box definitely comes in handy when the public throws stones. The point is to survive, intact or not, whatever the emotional cost. Actors who become celebrities are supposed to be grateful for the public interest. After all, they’re getting paid. Just to set the record straight, a salary for a given on-screen performance does not include the right to invade anyone’s privacy, to destroy someone’s sense of self.

In 2001 I spent 5 months with Kristen Stewart on the set of Panic Room mostly holed up in a space the size of a Manhattan closet. We talked and laughed for hours, sharing spontaneous mysteries and venting our boredom. I grew to love that kid. She turned 11 during our shoot and on her birthday I organized a mariachi band to serenade her at the taco bar while she blew out her candles. She begrudgingly danced around a sombrero with me but soon rushed off to grip and electric department's basketball game. Her mother and I watched her jump around after the ball, hooting with every team basket. “She doesn’t want to be an actor when she grows up, does she?” I asked. Her mom sighed. “Yes … unfortunately.” We both smiled and shrugged with an ambivalence born from experience. “Can’t you talk her out of it?” I offered. “Oh, I’ve tried. She loves it. She just loves it.” More sighs. We watched her run around the court for a while, both of us silent, each thinking our own thoughts. I was pregnant at the time and found myself daydreaming of the child I might have soon. Would she be just like Kristen? All that beautiful talent and fearlessness … would she jump and dunk and make me so proud?


There’s this image I have of a perfect moment. It comes to me as a square format 8mm home movie with 70’s oversaturated reds and blues, no sound, just a scratchy loop … there’s a little white-haired girl twirling in the surf. She’s singing at the top of her lungs, jumping and spinning around in the cold water, all salty, sandy, full of joy and confidence. She’s unconscious of the camera, of course, in her own world. The camera shakes a little. Perhaps her mom’s laughing behind the lens. Could a child be more loved than in this moment? She’s perfect. She is absolutely perfect.


Cut to: Today … A beautiful young woman strides down the sidewalk alone, head down, hands drawn into fists. She’s walking fast, darting around huge men with black cameras thrusting at her mouth and chest. “Kristen, how do you feel?” “Smile Kris!” “Hey, hey, did you get her?” “I got her. I got her!” The young woman doesn’t cry. Fuck no. She doesn’t look up. She’s learned. She keeps her head down, her shades on, fists in her pockets. Don’t speak. Don’t look. Don’t cry.

My mother had a saying that she doled out after every small injustice, every heartbreak, every moment of abject suffering. “This Too Shall Pass.” God, I hated that phrase. It always seemed so banal and out of touch, like she was telling me my pain was irrelevant. Now it just seems quaint, but oddly true … Eventually this all passes. The public horrors of today eventually blow away. And yes, you are changed by the awful wake of reckoning they leave behind. You trust less. You calculate your steps. You survive. Hopefully in the process you don’t lose your ability to throw your arms in the air again and spin in wild abandon. That is the ultimate F.U. and--finally--the most beautiful survival tool of all. Don’t let them take that away from you.

ophy
08-15-2012, 11:28 AM
Rob continues to totally pwn the media: http://movieline.com/2012/08/15/robert-pattinson-on-gma-good-morning-america-cosmopolis/


Whether or not Robert Pattinson carries Cosmopolis to box-office glory this coming weekend, I hope he's around the movie business for a long time. Unlike Kristen Stewart, who, I'm convinced, is Oscar material, Pattinson has yet to blow me away as an actor, but I do think he should win an award for the cheeky way in which he keeps showing us that contemporary celebrity journalism is a joke.

Pattinson's hysterical media tour for Cosmopolis has been underway since Monday when Jon Stewart — Mr. I-Schooled-Jim-Cramer-and-President-Obama-on-national-TV — served the actor melted ice cream and a bunch of even runnier questions on The Daily Show.

And then on Wednesday, things got even sillier. Pattinson appeared on Good Morning America, where host George Stephanopoulos informed the actor that the show's staff had done some research and come up with Pattinson's favorite breakfast food: Cinnamon Toast Crunch. (Good to see the ABC News budget going to good use.) The interview that followed was a lot like that cereal: sickly sweet and full of empty calories, although the winning and witty Pattinson never went soggy in the milk bath of Stephanopoulos' aimless questioning.

I couldn't help but admire the actor's response when Stephanopoulos, attempting to get the "elephant in the room out of the way" asked Pattinson "How are you doing? And what do you want your fans to know about what's going on in your personal life?" Behind the two men, a small horde of those fans stared hungrily at their Twilight idol through the glass walls of GMA's Times Square studio. If Pattinson, who we keep being told has no publicist, was going to play the game, that was the moment where he was supposed to drop some morsel about his supposed relationship drama with Kristen Stewart.

Instead, he used GMA's cereal shtick to his advantage. "I'd like my fans to know that Cinnamon Toast Crunch has 30 calories per bowl," Pattinson said with a vampy grin, reducing the idiocy of contemporary celebrity journalism to a single line. Make that two: "Pretty much everything that comes out of my mouth is irrelevant," he added. Nice.

"I take it that you don't want to talk too much about it," replied Stephanopoulos, which made me spit my breakfast back into my bowl. Really? "Is that the way you handle all of this craziness?" the former Clinton Administration adviser continued. "You get into to it to do movies," said Pattinson. "I've never been interested in trying to sell my personal life. And that's really the only reason people try to bring it up. The reason why you go on TV is to promote movies."

The thing is, even though GMA showed a clip and Pattinson talked about the role, I don't think the TV audience that was watching left with a better idea of whether they would want to see Cosmopolis, or why Pattinson wanted to appear in it. If director David Cronenberg — whose films provoke and inspire even when they don't work as conventional entertainment — was discussed at all during the interview, I don't recall anything significant that was said. Instead the interview became more about Pattinson's celebrity.

Fortunately, Pattinson is capable of being introspective. "If you start getting used to it, it means you're going crazy," he told Stephanopoulos, adding: "It's like being on the craziest theme-park ride. It's exciting, but, eventually, at some point, you've got to have a break." Pattinson, who plays an increasingly unhinged billionaire in the movie, even suggested a way that henpecked celebrities like him could get a break from the paparazzi: "If you put the lives of people who control billions on the front page of every single paper, the world would be a better place," he said.

To those same ends, the actor without a publicist had a few choice words to say about "spin culture" that, I suspect, raised some hackles at the high-powered publicity firms that represent celebrity's finest. "If you took away publicists" and those who hired them, "spoke for themselves, then they'd have to be responsible for their words." the actor said. I think that's what I like best about Pattinson. He knows he's part of the problem, but he sounds like he'd prefer to be part of the solution.

Read More at: http://movieline.com/2012/08/15/robert-pattinson-on-gma-good-morning-america-cosmopolis/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referral

isadora
08-19-2012, 10:36 PM
Getting caught up on my blogs (was gone Friday and Saturday) and this headline (and first line) made me LOL:

Kristen Stewart is refusing to talk about her situation with Robert Pattinson, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.


Kristen Stewart REFUSES to talk to RadarOnline, RadarOnline is exclusively reporting. Ha!

I'm easy.

emmaleigh
08-21-2012, 03:13 AM
She emerged today. http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/l0b0xs8ss9mmct7f0rbvnh8x4g8z3l0p/

All of her 'property of Rob markers' firmly in place. (Well, maybe not the necklace. Hard to tell.) Gold band is her only ring and Cartier bracelet she talked about in this month's InStyle. Along with their joint backpack and his nasty ass Orioles cap.
Also Kristen's brother and Rob's assistant were photographed at the movies together today.

Rob has Kimmel this week. And then hopefully they'll both disappear for awhile.

ETA: Some more pics from the June wedding in NJ were leaked: http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/fss/420d84acf2bef32050b5f7146445c35e/RKWedding9.jpg
And Bigfoot action just for Is! http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/fss/d8ebda1508a1c34d7afefd832a39eee9/RKWedding12.jpg

isadora
08-21-2012, 11:37 AM
Ah, so those are clues, yes?

I mean, if she's still wearing a good part of their shared hobo clothing AND their people are hanging out together then Robsten is on? I love the clues SO MUCH. So back to bigfooting.

I know why ophy loves these two: it's the clues!

isadora
08-21-2012, 11:59 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m930mxgGMf1rac1uho1_500.png
So I don't think the ring is a clue--it's her ring, not his, right? She would still wear it even if they were broken up. It's that she's wearing all the hobo-cessories that intrigues me.

Anybody got a link to the brother/assistant pic? Is that a Twitter thing?

Also, what's up with all the photography of interiors of cars that people are posting? I don't get it.

ophy
08-21-2012, 12:34 PM
It's the ring he bought her . . . but yeah, it's not a ring that he wears personally, obviously, and all of the other things are his, or things they have both been spotted with.

I don't read a whole lot into any of it. It's nice to think they are working through stuff, whether together or TOGETHER, (and I tend to think that they are) but I can certainly also see her wearing all of these things just because she misses him, or just because it's all habit as well. To me, wearing the ring is actually the *most* significant piece, but then . . . she was also wearing it during those ridiculous pics that I am never going to look at again, so yeah.

I'm hopeful, but overall very much wait-and-see. As long as she's not holed up, locked in a bathroom with a razor blade, it's all going to be fine eventually.

emmaleigh
08-21-2012, 12:38 PM
I mean, he gave her the ring. Like as a proxy for an engagement ring. It's the "wedding band" ring. Technically it belongs to her but it's wholly symbolic of their commitment.
But actually it's the hat that's most intriguing to me because that's definitely his hat. And not that they're the only two people to ever wear ballcaps backwards but Rob notably wore his that way last week for two major press events (kind of inappropriately IMO.)

Try this for the pic: http://i.imgur.com/wOWA2.jpg
It's TayStew, Rob's assistant Jeff, and a guy who looks remarkably like a younger, thinner version of K's assistant, John.

ophy
08-21-2012, 01:03 PM
If that guy is not related to John, then somebody needs to be suing somebody for unlawful cloning, cuz yeah. That's a dead on resemblance.

isadora
08-21-2012, 02:13 PM
I wonder if the boys hanging out is a bigger clue than her assemblage of Robstuff? I could see her wearing a ring hopefully (but she also wore all his stuff while cheating, in all honesty). I could see her getting half the hobo-clothes in the split. So I don't find any of that compelling on its own but for some reason the two camps continuing to mingle is more meaningful to me. I have no idea why!

isadora
08-22-2012, 10:24 PM
Is Scout Taylor-Compton an actual friend of Kristen Stewart's? Because she's clearly the source (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/71382711.html) for the latest Us Mag story on Robsten dramz.

It does seem to be laying the groundwork for their reunion, at least to the public. Assuming her PR was involved? Or it's just her shitty "friend" looking for coverage. She's groveling. She was taken advantage of.

“She’ll beg Scout to come over in the middle of the night so she’s not alone,” says a pal. “Or she’ll cry on Scout’s couch for hours.”

Read more at ONTD: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/71382711.html#ixzz24Ke7DhTK
Scout's GOTTA be the source, yes? Ugh, what a shitty "friend" if so!

Also LOL at this:

Even that is no refuge: Stewart has to endure sickeningly sweet moments between Taylor-Compton and her boyfriend, Glee hottie Samuel Larsen, who constantly leave love notes for each other.


And then:


Still, he remains so hopelessly in love that their closest pals are convinced they will reunite. “Right now their relationship isn’t defined,” says the insider. “Rob’s dealing with a lot of indecision, but their mutual friends think they will get back together. Kristen, after all, has said she wants to have his children.”


Also none of the tabs seem to be hip to the fact that her parents have slip up as I've seen them repeatedly note that her parents want her to move in with them OR that she is living with her parents. So that's odd.

emmaleigh
08-23-2012, 02:04 AM
Heh. That's all bullshit. Well except for wanting to have his children eventually.

Scout is a horrible friend. All of Kristen's friends are shady. Scout wore a tshirt around March in which the Disney Snow White is getting gang raped by the seven dwarfs and then made sure she was papped with Kristen while wearing it. Also she has, on more than one occasion, given more life to the 'Kristen is a lesbian' rumors. And most tellingly, when Kristen did Runaways commentary, she had almost nothing to say about Scout, certainly nothing would suggest they're the BFFs that Scout tries to sell (literally, she hashtags "best friend" in K related tweets.)

But all that to say, no way Kristen is staying with her. To be perfectly honest, I think she and Rob are back in the same residence.

Rob was on Kimmel tonight and very, very silly.

ophy
08-31-2012, 05:56 PM
Surprising exactly nobody (who has been paying any attention), Kristen's mom Jules has filed for divorce, stating that she and John have been separated for 2 yrs: http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2012/08/kristen-stewarts-mom-jules-mann-stewart-files-for-divorce.html


Jules Stewart filed for divorce from her husband of 27 years, John Stewart, Aug. 17 in Los Angeles.

Citing irreconcilable differences, Stewart, who also goes by Jules Mann-Stewart (Mann is her maiden name), states the couple have been separated for two years.

So maybe their split isn't such a shock to the "Twilight" star after all.

Jules, an Australian native, has worked in Hollywood for three decades, mostly as a script supervisor for TV shows, including "The Sarah Silverman Program" and "The Practice."

Papa Stew is also a showbiz vet, working as a stage manager for shows like "Fear Factor" and "Weakest Link."

ophy
09-05-2012, 10:14 AM
This is pretty damn funny. "Where's the Chinese food?": http://youtu.be/FmxSk0wZxss

The Bad Lip Reading version of Twilight.

IssieCol
09-07-2012, 09:26 AM
I really liked KStew's dress at her movie premiere at TIFF, but is something kinda off with her face? It doesn't look like she's lost weight, but her face seems more angled or sharper in the new set of pictures, right? Is it just me?

ophy
09-07-2012, 09:48 AM
I wasn't in love with the dress, but I thought she looked really fierce in it.

Her face does look thinner to me . . . dunno if it was the hairstyle/make-up that made it look that way, or if it's just a sign of being in your twenties, and your face changing shape as you get a little older and less round.

Nice to see the necklace and ring still in place, even though they didn't go with her outfit at all. That Cartier necklace is one of my faves, but it never really goes with her red carpet clothes.

Rob looked like his usual self at the VMAs, too. Neither of them are hiding, so that's good.

I shudder to think of what the paps are yelling at Kristen when they see her, though. They were always crazy vulgar to her, and it's got to be so much worse now.

ETA links:

Kristen at TIFF: http://fiercebitchstew.livejournal.com/2236660.html#cutid1
Rob at VMAs: http://robpattinson.blogspot.com/2012/09/2012-video-music-awards.html
BD teaser: http://fiercebitchstew.livejournal.com/2236340.html

To be honest, I'm so over everything Twi, that I can't muster any excitement for BD2. Nothing to do with R&K at all, I'm still interested in them. I just can't care about sparkly Cullen vampires and fake native American werewolves now that I've discovered the vastly superior TVD mythology, with it's vastly superior cast. Sorry, Stephenie! You just didn't have enough Ian, Paul or JoMo in your story.

isadora
09-07-2012, 10:50 AM
Her dress was fab but her face did look a bit more angular. But wasn't she also super dieting and going high protein for a part? And then the whole scandal? Skinny girls in California don't eat when they are stressed or busy (or so they all claim in interviews) so I'm guessing she's just a touch bonier than usual?

ophy
09-07-2012, 11:17 AM
Maybe so. She was supposed to be working herself into a very lean shape for Cali, and then she pulled out of the movie. Which was a good move, I think. it was the wrong movie and the wrong movie set for her to be on right now.

If she's been stressed (which, duh), she's very lucky that it's not showing up on her skin. Even in HQs, her skin is in pretty good shape.

IssieCol
09-07-2012, 11:23 AM
I think it's the fact you can see her ears really well with this particular hairstyle? And they're super pointy, which I've never noticed before, but they make her entire face shape seem different.

isadora
09-07-2012, 12:31 PM
I only have a chance to read the excerpt so far but did she REALLY tell Vogue that Rob liked to lick her armpits? Because I can't wrap my brain around that.

How do you go from totes covert to talking about where he likes to LICK you? I mean, what? And then cheating? It's just all so random.

emmaleigh
09-07-2012, 12:49 PM
This is what she said about Rob in British Vogue:


"My God, I'm so in love with my boyfriend," she suddenly confided, squeezing her fists and stiffening that little body with anticipation. “I wish he was here now. I think I want to have his babies.”

Have I heard her right? Wasn’t her "boyfriend" the one thing she never talked about? To anyone? And yet here we were. “God, I miss him,” she said, raking her hair back and exhaling a plume of smoke.“I love the way he smells. And him me. Like, he loves to lick under my armpits. I don't get this obsession with washing the smell off. That smell of someone you love. Don’t you think it’s the whole point?”

And yes, it's TOTALLY out of character for her to be that candid with a reporter of all people. But the whole point is that she *was* out of character. I've been dreading this interview coming out since the pics did because I knew she gave it at the height of her manic spiraling and all things considered, her actual quotes are not that bad.
Also she'd been at the wedding in New Jersey with him right before this Paris trip where she was also talking to some guests about wanting to have babies with him.
I don't think what she says is OOC necessarily, just the fact that she's saying it to total strangers. I mean babies and armpit licking and obsessive love and smelling each other is par for the course with the hobos, we just never though it'd be confirmed (and by Kristen no less.)

She had a new makeup artist last night. No liner plus much heavier brows (both unusual for her) plus the severe hair style plus severe weight loss all contributed to her face looking different I think. I agree, it looked very different. And she does have big ears. It's one of the few physical things she's ever mentioned being self-conscious about.

But all her 'property of rob' markers - gold band, Cartier bracelet, Cartier necklace (and only those)- were in place last night and she seemed in relatively good spirits. As did he at the VMAs.

All good signs. :heart:

ophy
09-07-2012, 12:55 PM
The Elle Canada interview was not quite so weird and left field, thankfully. And it seems like we should be done with interviews coming out that were done while was . . . um . . . 'not herself', right? Or do we need to brace ourselves for others?

emmaleigh
09-07-2012, 01:11 PM
See, I thought Elle Canada was way worse in terms of saying crazy and/or nonsensical shit. Anything she did that week in Paris has the potential to be bad news bears so in theory, any of her Balenciaga press. It just remains to be seen how many pubs she talked to in that week.

And it's pretty clear that anything about being confident, authentic, true to herself, etc. was just flat out denial. She could not have been feeling more antithetical to that.

isadora
09-07-2012, 01:26 PM
Who talks about liking to have your boyfriend's man scent all over you, let alone to a reporter? It's ba-nanz! I love it. So be it. She was giving deets old school Drew Barrymore style!

IssieCol
09-07-2012, 02:25 PM
What's the BNF consensus on her current mental health? Do you guys think she's better now and that the cheating business shook her out of her spiral? I hope so. We don't need anymore Lohans.

ophy
09-07-2012, 05:30 PM
If it didn't wake her up, it certainly woke up the people around her, and let them know that *somebody* was just crying out for help. And by 'people', I mean Rob included. But yeah, I'm sure it jarred her and put an end to all of that.

I'm not in the know at all, but I *still* wonder whether or not breaking her hand led to a painkiller issue. The timing would be perfect for that, and it would explain so much. There's no way she wasn't on something pretty major in order to get through the rest of shooting that movie. And it's all so textbook to lead to a spiral or OOC actions and delusions from there.

ETA want to stress that I KNOW NOTHING. That's just pure spec. But you might want to note that she showed up in Toronto with a finger brace on, so her hand/fingers are still bothering her.

isadora
09-08-2012, 12:46 PM
That would help explain why she was suddenly so loose lipped!

ophy
09-08-2012, 06:20 PM
One of Kristen's interviews at TIFF:
http://kstewartnews.com/2012/09/08/kristens-associated-press-interview-at-tiff/#more-20065

“You expect a lot of people at a ‘Twilight’ premiere, but showing up at an ‘On the Road’ Toronto film festival screening and seeing that amount of people is absolutely, disarmingly amazing,” Stewart said. “It felt pretty cool.”

….

The novel was a consciousness-raising experience for Stewart when she first read it as a high school freshman.

“Marylou and Dean are the type of people that I was inspired by. Initially, at 15 reading the book, going, God, these are the sort of people I’ve got to find. The mad ones,” Stewart said. “And I am so not one of them, but maybe I could be. …

“The great thing about ‘On the Road’ is that it really can crack open your shell, and I definitely realized things about myself that I didn’t realize before. That I can let my face hang out and not be too aware of it, and stop questioning myself and not be afraid of strangers, and stop being judgmental.”

Coping with photographers and TV crews at Thursday’s red-carpet premiere was a challenge.

“I was a little nervous, obviously. I’m always nervous before a red carpet,” Stewart said. “To be honest, I was just kind of telling myself, like, just don’t black out. Be there, don’t just figuratively put your head down and barrel though it. Be there, appreciate it. Luckily, very, very much I was able to do that.”

In November, Stewart faces some awkward public appearances when she and Pattinson will be promoting “The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn — Part 2,” the finale of their vampire romance.

Stewart is confident they will get through that all right.

“We’re going to be fine,” Stewart said. “We’re totally fine.”

I think she's saying rather a lot there, and I'm more convinced than ever that she and Rob are still together - no matter what the media editorializes. Okay, maybe I'm just reading into that what I want to, but still.

isadora
09-09-2012, 11:22 AM
Did she face a barrage of awkward questions?

ophy
09-09-2012, 11:44 AM
First of all there were TOO MANY interviews (who thought that was a good idea?), and all of the journos were like, *looking* for significance in everything she said, which was probably nerve-wracking enough. Seems like they were sort of delicate about the actual questions, I guess - at least in everything I read. Haven't watched any of the interview vids. She doesn't seem to have done very many one on ones, which was probably smart, so she had Garrett there to help deflect and redirect in most cases.

According to one account I read, somebody shouted 'Kristen, you're a little bitch' in the press line on the red carpet (a 'fan', not a journo), but it doesn't seem like she heard them.

During the press on the second day, she looked exhausted, though. Hoping she's on her way home now.

ophy
09-10-2012, 11:31 AM
Moviefone Canada:http://news.moviefone.ca/chris-jancelewicz/our-obsession-with-kriste_b_1865539.html?utm_hp_ref=moviefone-canada


Attending the Toronto Film Festival to support On the Road, Kristen Stewart is doing all the usual things celebrities do to promote films: she's participating in media junkets, she's walking the red carpet, she's present at Q&As. If it weren't for all the ridiculousness surrounding the recent "cheating scandal," Stewart would be just another movie star doing the "movie star" thing (albeit with Twilight fans aplenty).

But who is this girl, really? None of us know her. At all. We think we know her based on what we're told about her, the little glimmers or details about her personality we glean from interviews, articles or snippets of gossip we hear through the various grapevines. Do I know her? No, I can never claim that. But in the past 24 hours I've seen her three times, and spoken to her once -- not for an interview, but candidly, in a hallway at the InterContinental Hotel in Toronto. In that brief five minutes I learned more about Stewart than I ever could have from any interview or gossip mag.

More on that in a minute; first, I want to let you know what I saw at the On the Road gala premiere last night. I saw a depressed, very blank-eyed Stewart, hitting all her marks on the red carpet and doing her thing for the cameras. Media, fans and laypeople alike were salivating at the chance to snap her picture, many of them the same people who demonized her for cheating.

After the movie premiere, Stewart, director Walter Salles, Garrett Hedlund and Kirsten Dunst all came out on stage to answer questions from TIFF CEO Piers Handling -- all carefully orchestrated, mind you -- and they took a pathetic two questions from the audience. Handling's question ("Was it hard for you to play such a difficult character?") elicited a response from Stewart that no publicity rep could predict, nor could Handling himself control. Her long answer (roughly two minutes long) was rambling and stop-and-start, and she even choked up at points. It was obvious that this was not planned.

She somehow went from talking about her On the Road character Marylou to discussing "first loves" and how she was a "bottomless pit" -- she didn't know how she pulled through. At this point, no one knew if she was talking about herself or her character. Above the incessant "click click click" of the cameras in the audience, you could hear her voice quiver as she spoke. It was sad, not solely because of the subject matter, but also because she wanted to talk about "it" and it was clearly an issue she'd been told not to discuss. I don't know what you think about it, but shouldn't people be free to speak as they choose? It was all very bizarre.

Did we ever stop to think that maybe she has something to tell us? Something not heavily scripted or concocted in back rooms, weighing numbers and debating what will happen to her career if she does this, or if she does that? Or maybe she has nothing to say and this just slipped out, which sometimes happens when people are dealing with major changes in their lives; maybe she wants to figure her life out on her own -- as she should-- without this constant intrusion and constant judging. If you stop and contemplate the amount of pressure that puts on someone (think about a normal break-up you've experienced, now add four billion tons of pressure on top of that), it's a wonder she hasn't completely lost her mind. Oh, but it's OK, she has "people" to help her with that.

And speaking of "people," let's get back to the InterContinental hallway. No less than four security guards were standing outside her junket hotel room, not to mention the heavy swath of publicity reps circling about. I was waiting to conduct my interview with Hedlund and Salles (but not Stewart), and as I was sitting there, Stewart emerged from the room and stood across from me in the hall, leaning on the wall, seemingly bored. No guard did anything to stop me from talking to her -- she may as well have been one of my colleagues, or just another person at TIFF. Here's how most of it went:

"Hey," she said.

"Hey," I said. "How's it going?"

"You know, it's fine," she said.

"I don't think they want me to talk to you," I said.

"Why not?" she said. "That's weird."

"I have no idea," I said. "I know. I saw you in your movie last night. You were really great."

She looked to her right, saw her PR team coming down the hallway, and quickly moved to abscond to her hotel room, but before she ducked into it, she leaned back out, smiled an easy smile and said, "Thank you."

I interview celebrities on the regular, and somehow this very brief encounter (combined with the events at the premiere) touched me in a way I've never been touched before. She had no idea who I was, no idea if I was hotel staff, a journalist (I wasn't wearing any badge whatsoever), a publicity rep, or a crazy fan who snuck into the hotel. Our conversation was normal and regular, so simple it's almost laughable -- but it spoke in huge neon letters to me.

Stewart, at the moment, is just another person who happens to be ridiculously famous. She's going through a very rough time and is working hard to promote her film (and will undoubtedly go through hell promoting Breaking Dawn: Part 2), all the while being sheltered by a phalanx of protectors. Let's leave her a bit of breathing room, shall we?

isadora
09-10-2012, 01:50 PM
Is there video of her reply?

I think they should (mostly) let her off the leash (while taking steps to protect her from any harrassment, obvsly). I think her fans would be fine with her being honest because that's how her public image is--people already see her as awkward misplaced indie princess doing Twilight so I think the public responds to celebs letting it hang out, in a way.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSCfOYSpFs&feature=related
I don't actually think her reply is in reference to her personal life at all if this is the clip. I just think K-Stew is that consumed with her ideas about her "art" you know? She's embarrassingly sincere about acting.

ophy
09-10-2012, 02:27 PM
This is what I mean about the journos being hypersensitive to *anything* they could twist to be about her personal life. She says stuff like this about her characters and about acting all the time, because she really is this person that is consumed by her work.

It feels like everyone is struggling to assign some kind of larger cultural meaning to this 'narrative', when it's really just a couple of kids doing stuff and figuring things out and trying to find their way, while all about them people (fans included- I'm being self aware here) are weaving their own stories and expectations and delusions around them.

IssieCol
09-10-2012, 04:18 PM
Lainey has a KStew article today and she says that Robsten is indeed, unbroken. So take that as you will. I flove KDunst even though she's supposedly a bitch, but she's had a couple of weird festivals since her return from rehab. She had Lars Von Trier lose his shit at a press conference at Cannes last year and this year, she's adjacent to Twihard melodrama.

ophy
09-10-2012, 04:58 PM
Yep. Finally, somebody is admitting this as a real possibility.

http://www.laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/24566/Jennifer-Lawrence-and-Kristen-Stewart-hang-out-at-TIFF


Grey Goose Soho House is where they go to end their night at TIFF. The Blunt-Krasinskis, Alexander Skarsgard, Bradley Cooper, many others, have all made multiple appearances. Kristen Stewart went on Saturday night to meet up with Jennifer Lawrence. By the time I got there after Lauryn Hill (OMG!) they were up on the third floor in a corner, talking closely. Lawrence was the more relaxed of the two, not surprisingly. She had her shoes off in her hand, and her legs dangling over the armrest of her chair. See now this is the relationship I wish we could cover more of. Imagine if we applied the same resources to reporting on Jensten as they do on Robsten? Can we?

And what of Robsten?

Stewart was asked at TIFF about whether or not she and Robert Pattinson would be ok promoting Twilight 5 together or something. And her response was:

“We’re going to be fine. We’re totally fine.”

So as you can imagine, all the Twi-Hards are like, HOW DO WE INTERPRET THIS ARE THEY BACK TOGETHER JUST TELL US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. It was communicated to people during TIFF that they are but they’re worried about how it might affect his career, like whether or not there will be some kind of crazy backlash or something. There’s an anthropological discussion here, you know, if you want to explore it. That for some of his more unhinged following, it would be worse for him to take back a girl who was unfaithful than to be unfaithful himself. Fascinating, isn’t it? And so we’re back to where we’ve always been with these two, and before a movie premiere. Are they? Aren’t they? Are they? Aren’t they? They are.

Pretty sure Lainey would not have committed herself to this unless she had solid sources. Not saying that Lainey hasn't fucked up with her 'sources' in the past, but this is a bold statement that nobody else is making, so she's out on a limb here. And she does have good connections at TIFF.

I do not, however, believe that anyone is worried about Rob's career being affected by this. Not hardly. Especially not after the Cosmopolis reviews cemented Rob as a real actor that real directors should want in their projects. He's golden right now.

There might be some concern that his loonier fans could try to murder Kristen over it, sure, but that's why girlfriend has got so many freaking bodyguards these days. But I don't think there are any actual career concerns going on.

What's more likely is that they are resetting their relationship to private, and trying to reclaim some of the privacy ground they sacrificed over what happened. No big deal.

IssieCol
09-10-2012, 05:29 PM
Is it true he's selling the house they shared and that she bought a house with her mom? I wonder if they're dialing things back a bit by not living together anymore. It would make sense.

ophy
09-10-2012, 05:41 PM
No, neither of those things are true as far as I know. I don't think there's been a true thing in the tabs in a very, very, very long time. Safer to assume that everything is fake.

That Malibu house was purchased a long time ago (and Rob has stayed there many times, and uses that house when he surfs) and there is no evidence yet that the Los Feliz house is on the market. If I had to make a bet, I'd say that they are prob still living together. Dunno if I would personally choose to stay in the Los Feliz house, though. It's so well known and staked out. Unless Rob's people started the 'house on the market' rumor themselves, so they could live there undetected.

isadora
09-10-2012, 11:30 PM
I would bet a lot of the tab stories--Us and People and "legit" trash pubs--are largely PR moves. So even if they are untrue many are floated by their own PR peeps.

I have no doubt they are back together. At least for now. I'd bet they are underground for numerous reasons. 1. They are sneaky hobos. 2. It might hurt his image and even if he doesn't care his people need to--it's their job to do so. 3. It makes sense to wait for it to blow over. And perhaps to see how stable this reconciliation ends up being. If she is not on some double secret probation with him then he is crazy.

However, as odd as this sounds, Maybe this situation has finally given him some hand in that relationship? I mean, he is busy licking her armpits and she is grinding her ass into her director. So maybe she woke up and was like, "I fucked up and have to make this right!" and now he is finally getting whatever he likes licked, so to speak.

isadora
09-10-2012, 11:34 PM
I forgot to mention that the BD2 promo is hilarious! Bella eats a mountain lion. LOLZ.

emmaleigh
09-12-2012, 12:04 PM
Hee. http://twitpic.com/atujzi

ophy
09-12-2012, 05:17 PM
Nice use of the pic, em.

This is a great interview done by Josh at MTV with Kristen: http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/833478/kristen-stewart-thinks-die-hard-kerouac-fans-will-appreciate-the-new-cut-of-on-the-road.jhtml#id=1693682

He's just so much better at interviewing Kristen than anyone else. It doesn't even make sense to let anyone else do it, actually.

emmaleigh
09-12-2012, 06:47 PM
That interview restored my faith in humanity. I'm only a little bit exaggerating. /dramatic

ophy
09-19-2012, 03:04 PM
Both People and Gossip Cop have weighed in.

http://www.gossipcop.com/robert-pattinson-kristen-stewart-meeting-september-2012-meetup-reunion-reconciled/

Robert Pattinson & Kristen Stewart Meet Up, Despite Rumor She’s Pushed Him Away


Life & Style just gambled with its new Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart “reporting” — and lost badly.

The tabloid claims Pattinson has ordered a “desperate” Stewart to leave him alone, and that he’s become “increasingly uncomfortable” with her attempts to reconcile.

“Kristen hasn’t stopped calling and texting Rob — and when he wouldn’t answer, she started calling his friends and family,” a so-called “source” tells the magazine. “He finally sent her a few texts because she was harassing everyone, but it’s over.”

Uh-huh.

Let’s watch as Life & Style keeps digging itself deeper.

The mag insists Stewart is supposedly “embarrassing” Pattinson by wearing his clothes in public and telling reporters the pair would be “fine” during Breaking Dawn promotion.

“He’s so embarrassed that it makes him feel sick,” claims an “insider” for the tabloid.

Life & Style goes so far as to quote a production “source” who claims there’s now “zero” promotional events lined up for the movie because things have supposedly become so awkward between the stars.

Stewart’s actions are “simply pushing [Pattinson] farther away,” alleges Life & Style.

That’s interesting.

Because Stewart and Pattinson have been speaking again — in person — Gossip Cop can confirm.

While it remains to be seen whether their meeting face-to-face will lead to a full romantic reconciliation, the two stars are in a more comfortable place than they were weeks ago.

The notion that Pattinson told Stewart to “leave [him] alone” — totally ruling out a rekindling of their personal relationship and even threatening their professional commitments — is total Life & Style fantasy.

As for Stewart and Pattinson’s romantic status, a source close to the pair says to Gossip Cop, “Time will tell.”

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20631287,00.html

Speculation of a possible reconciliation between Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson has been swirling since the news broke that she cheated on him with director Rupert Sanders – and PEOPLE has learned that the couple did recently reunite.

Stewart, 22, and Pattinson, 26, met up in Los Angeles over the weekend of Sept. 15, PEOPLE reports in its upcoming issue.

And, according to an insider, the Twilight hunk's pals "think they'll be a couple again."

While Pattinson was completely heartbroken over the split, says another source, moving on is "easier said than done ... and clearly harder than expected."

When Stewart admitted to having a tryst with Sanders, she made clear she hoped it wouldn't spell the end of her three-year relationship with her Breaking Dawn costar. "This momentary indiscretion has jeopardized the most important thing in my life, the person I love and respect the most, Rob," she said in a candid statement. "I love him, I love him, I'm so sorry."

Both Stewart and Pattinson have stepped out publicly since the scandal broke, but neither has directly addressed the status of their relationship.

So the narrative that seems to be rolling out slowly is that they took some time apart . . . and are now talking again . . . by next week the word will be that they are tentatively reconciling to work through their issues . . . and then a week later that they are fully back together/living together again.

Smart to start it off this way, so that by the time BD2 promo rolls around, folks will be accustomed to the idea that they are back together (if they ever truly spilt, which I seriously doubt).

BABIES BY 2015!!! Just sayin'.

ETA So E! and US have also come out today talking about an R&K reconciliation. Ruth earning her monies.

ophy
09-23-2012, 01:29 PM
I don't even know what I would rate this rumor . . . on a scale of 1 to 10, maybe a -1? But anyway, Rob was definitely out at the LA Dance WhateverTheHell event last night, and was snapped looking purty. Which is fine, but the rumor floating on tumblr is that Kristen was spotted there as well.

http://runrunrunaway3.tumblr.com/post/32111008292/so-a-friend-of-mine-forwarded-me-this-screenshot-a
http://runrunrunaway3.tumblr.com/post/32114799381/was-she-supposedly-at-the-la-dance-project-too-or-just
http://runrunrunaway3.tumblr.com/post/32114800552/do-u-know-where-this-was-was-she-at-the-event-with

Take that as you will.

Anyway, Rob looked good. Unfortunately, he was snapped in the vicinity of Dita Von Teese *and* Natalie Portman, so everyone is convinced he had a threesome with them last night. Yawn.
http://robpattinson.blogspot.com/2012/09/pictures-of-rob-at-dinner-for-la-dance.html

Natalie Portman went blonde. Huh.

jennk
09-23-2012, 01:36 PM
Do not buy some random on facebook seeing KStew when somehow no one else in the whole place did.

I like the blonde, but based on other outfits, Natalie Portman seems over-dressed.

ophy
09-23-2012, 01:48 PM
Yes, she def was. I think it's because her hubby is involved in the event, hosting it, organized it, or um . . honestly, I have no idea, but this was his shindig somehow. No clue why Rob was there. Seems really random to me.

The 'sighting' is oddly low-key for a made up sighting. I would have expected a story about tantrumy bottle throwing, or slouching, or scowling, or chasing Rob all over the event, with him hiding from her, or just somehow playing into her stereotype.

Or, on the flip side, actually pretending to have seen R&K *together*, or involved in couply PDA or what have you. Not just 'she's wearing sneakers in the bathroom'.

Making up interesting fake sightings. #youaredoingitwrong

jennk
09-23-2012, 01:50 PM
Maybe it was just made up for attention from her friends amd then spread? Maybe she actually thought it was KStew and it was just some girl?

ophy
09-23-2012, 02:52 PM
The former, most likely.

ophy
09-26-2012, 10:06 AM
Kristen is in Paris for the Balenciaga show: http://kstewartnews.com/2012/09/26/kristen-lands-in-paris-for-fashion-week/

I don't remember seeing that security dude before. He looks serious.

ophy
09-27-2012, 11:24 AM
Yes, yes, I know. I need to get back to work. Whatever.

Kristen arriving at/sitting at Balenciaga show: http://kstewartnews.com/2012/09/27/kristen-attends-the-balenciaga-spring-2013-show-at-paris-fashion-week/
With Anna Wintour! http://www.imagebam.com/image/c9dd6b212443426

Ruth was with her, obvs.

ophy
09-30-2012, 09:07 PM
Stills from BD2:

http://robpattinson.blogspot.fr/2012/09/new-breaking-dawn-part-2-still-edward.html

There's also a adorbs pic of Charlie with Nessie floating around, but I haven't located it yet.

ophy
10-01-2012, 07:25 AM
Mama and baby: http://twitpic.com/azytnd

The BD2 promo sched looks highly unnecessary.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/twilight-breaking-dawn-pt-2-sets-global-cast-tour-rob-pattinson-and-kristin-stewart-reunite-for-joint-appearances/#utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Kicks off soon, with the first appearance being Chaske Spencer in Spain on 10/6. (say whu?)

But I'll skip only to the stuff that has the trio involved:

October 21 – October 28 - Australia, Japan, Brazil, South Africa, Scotland, Ireland: Robert Pattinson visits Australia, Kristen Stewart visits Japan, Taylor Lautner visits Brazil, Ashley Grene visits South Africa, Kellan Lutz and Nikki Reed visit Scotland and Ireland. (so R&K don't get to relive Japan together!)

October 28 – November 3 – Los Angeles, California: Worldwide press junket in Los Angeles with Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner, Peter Facinelli, Elizabeth Reaser, Nikki Reed, Ashley Greene, Kellan Lutz, Jackson Rathbone, Michael Sheen, director Bill Condon, author Stephenie Meyer, and screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg.

November 4 – November 11 – Various Cities, U.S.: The cast will do national press and talk shows.

November 12 – Los Angeles, California: World Premiere of The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn – Part 2 at Nokia Theater at LA LIVE featuring Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner and the cast along with Bill Condon and Stephenie Meyer.

November 14 – November 16 – England, Spain, Germany: Premiere Tour in London, Madrid, and Berlin featuring Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner, Bill Condon, and Wyck Godfrey

Skipping the random crap like Nikki and Jackson going to Denmark, and the ENTIRE wolf pack annoying Burbank with their irrelevant selves.

What could possibly be left to say about this blasted series? Just do some press in LA and transmit it worldwide, for beek's sake. I feel exhausted just thinking about it.

ophy
10-01-2012, 08:44 AM
Rob in a fanpic from the Black Keys concert last night in LA: http://robpattinson.blogspot.com/2012/10/new-fan-picture-of-rob-from-tonight.html

Fun drunk!

And there were three separate twitter sightings of R&K (TOGETHER) at a dinner party at SoHo House this weekend.

https://twitter.com/SophiaBonnet/status/252257555814957056
https://twitter.com/SophiaBonnet/status/252658742997417985

https://twitter.com/joshsallee/status/252346192405594112
https://twitter.com/JennHurless/status/252307659129229313

Well, that's interesting.

isadora
10-01-2012, 11:43 AM
I gotta say that I'm *slightly* surprised they got back together. Not that I didn't think they would have a difficult time breaking up (as I do believe he is rather obsessed with her) but I think the fact that the ENTIRE WORLD knows your girlfriend cheated on you and you can go back to her says that Rob Pattinson is (not a douche or a "pussy" as I've seen him called across the Internet) somebody who really has found a way to separate his personal and public lives, and I actually find that quite admirable.

I don't think I'd be able to do that with the whole world watching. I *might* be able to do it if it where a private heartbreak shared only with close, trusted friends. But to have any shithead on the street be able to pass judgment and talk smack about this basically to your face when they see you is a very different world to occupy. Like I'm sure any fan photo request is an opportunity for a stranger to tell you how you should live--and don't think for a second random people are not taking that opportunity.

That said, I'm still not sure how this works out. She's 22. She's already cheated on him (and cheated on her last boyfriend in order to be with him). So he's taking a big gamble on her, IMO. Of course, I'd never tell him I think that, even if I met him. Hee!

ophy
10-01-2012, 12:03 PM
The guy is a saint compared to most public people, and I don't say that lightly, nor do I say that because I think what she did was unforgivable (because obvs it wasn't), but just because yeah . . . that ability to say 'fuck it' to what the entire world will say suggests that he is super comfortable being his own person and doing what is right for him, and for the person he loves.

(Again, not passing judgment about what *is* right or wrong for him, I'm just saying.)

Speaking as someone whose personal life got a tad messy in my twenties with some *ahem* overlap involved, it's amazing how some people are just better forgivers than others. And just better overall of not letting their own pride get in the way when somebody they love needs their support no matter what. Magnified by a zillion when you are mega-stars and everyone is watching and calling you vile things. Every time I see someone just going off on Kristen Stewart's 'villainy' on ONTD, I remember that Kristen is obsessed with Googling herself, and I just cringe for her. Ugh.

LaaLaa
10-01-2012, 12:28 PM
She googles herself?! I hope that's top 3 on the list of things a therapist would have her stop doing.

BreezyK
10-01-2012, 12:57 PM
I mean, I know from reading here that they are the real deal, but personally, I think that this lasts through the premiere of Breaking Dawn and then it's over. That they've found a way to deal with being together during the promotion, but then when there's no professional reason for them to spend a lot of time together, they separate. I would say by mid-January...

ophy
10-01-2012, 01:08 PM
I think just the opposite. I'd say that promo puts a ridic amount of strain on them, and they will be in a much better place together once it's all over and they are finally and truly free of the machine. They have fought pretty hard to be a couple, and weathered a lot of storms. I don't see it ending just when they are able to finally breathe and be their own people for the first time in four years.

isadora
10-01-2012, 01:39 PM
Well, that "freedom" will be a different kind of struggle, IMO. Without the machine who are they? That remains to be seen (by them and us).

And, it's true what you said, oph, quite a few people had "messy" 20-something years (myself included) with lots of dramz and end up settled up and in and become boring old people (like me).

Mr. Is and I were DRAMATICALZ back in the day. And so were several of my friends who married the people they were in tortured mid-20s romances with. My BFF was an inveterate cheater and I can't imagine her doing any of that stuff now!

ophy
10-01-2012, 01:46 PM
Oh, I know. I always roll my eyes at the ONTD-ers who are like shallow parrot-people "Once a cheater always a cheater."

Yeah, obvs you are all like, 19 years old with no mature relationships under your belt. From 21 until 28, it's like you are a CRAZY PERSON who bears little to no resemblance to who will actually grow up to be someday. I can't even begin to picture myself behaving now the way I behaved back in the day.

Linda
10-01-2012, 03:11 PM
I bet his family are thrilled!

ophy
10-01-2012, 03:41 PM
I doubt they are all that upset about it. His family, by all solid reports, really love and care about Kristen. So . . . .

isadora
10-01-2012, 05:51 PM
His parents would have to be the coolest people on the planet to not be horrified on the inside. I mean, they might be cool to her and to their son but inside they are like: fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

My aunt and uncle treat their daughter-in-law graciously and adore the kids and all that but NEVAH FERGOT what that bitch did before they had kids. LOL. She got addicted to painkillers, slept with his best friend and tried to steal everything out of their house. Ha! But then they reconciled and she got knocked up immediately and they were like: Eh, bygones, whadder u gon'do?

IssieCol
10-01-2012, 11:26 PM
Yeah, I agree with is. Even if his folks are super cool with KStew, she still broke their kid's heart. I'm sure they're being outwardly supportive due to her issues, but inside, I'd be worried that my kid was in a relationship with someone who's so messed up. Couple that with the fact that Mom and Pops Pattinson seem to be very stable and have taught their kid to abhor cheating? It would not surprise me if they have held family meetings over this.

ophy
10-02-2012, 02:58 PM
You get a better look at the closet Alice built for Bella at the cottage in this BTS pic: http://www.imagebam.com/image/c3f9ce213225926

So fucking jealous. Oh, and the hobos are being cute here, too. #robstenbubble

ophy
10-05-2012, 07:25 AM
New BD2 stills: http://robpattinson.blogspot.fr/2012/10/new-lq-breaking-dawn-part-2-still.html

Oooh, looks like Mama Bella is mad at Jacob for imprinting on Nessie!

isadora
10-05-2012, 11:22 AM
I am super sad that we probably won't see Nessie hunting big game. I would love to see that though. It would be hilariously awesome.

ophy
10-08-2012, 05:21 PM
Phase II has begun.

People has confirmed the R&K 'reunion', and has also taken back what they said about Rob selling the Los Feliz house.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20637147,00.html

They're back on! Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart have gotten back together, several sources confirm to PEOPLE.

The Twilight pair – who play Edward Cullen and Bella Swan – broke up after Stewart admitted in July to having a brief fling with her Snow White and the Huntsman director, Rupert Sanders.

After some time apart, Stewart, 22, and Pattinson, 26, met up in Los Angeles over the weekend of Sept. 15 in L.A., and began spending more and more time together.

Now they are officially a couple again. And Pattinson has decided not to sell the L.A. home that he and Stewart shared, according to a source.

The couple are scheduled to make their first red carpet appearance since the split later this month while promoting The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn – Part 2.

Though they are together again, currently the pair are on opposite sides of the country. On Monday, Pattinson was spotted bundled up in a hat and warm jacket as he strolled through the streets of New York City. Meanwhile, Stewart spent Sunday night – dressed in shorts for the balmy L.A. weather – taking in a Florence + The Machine concert at the Hollywood Bowl with her dad.

I wonder why they picked Sept 15th as their 'this is when we will tell people we met up again' date? Wevs, we will prob start to see confirmations rolling out in other more legit sources from here on.

ophy
10-08-2012, 05:38 PM
Rob on the east coast (he hung out with TomStu at an IFC dinner): http://robpattinson.blogspot.com/2012/10/rob-in-nyc-oct-8th-2012.html
and and picture of Rob using a power tool to drill his name into somebody's table. Uh huh. You read that right. :http://robpattinson.blogspot.com/2012/10/new-fan-picture-of-rob-from-last-night.html

and Kristen on the west coast (she went to a Florence and the machine show with her dad and some friends): http://kstewartnews.com/2012/10/08/kristen-attends-the-florencethe-machine-show-with-her-dad-friends-in-l-a/

ophy
10-15-2012, 02:54 PM
Just a heads up that R&K were papped together at a bar in their Los Feliz neighborhood: http://www.etonline.com/news/125897_First_Photo_Kristen_Stewart_and_Robert_Patt inson_Back_Together/index.html

emmaleigh
10-15-2012, 04:41 PM
I kind of expected this today but it's still a nice surprise. People are going to shout PR regardless but they had to do something prior to promo starting next week. They've always done well with intentional pap pics to make a statement so not surprised they went that route.

She's noticeably all burrowed into Wall o' Rob and... that's all I'm going to say about that.

:heart:

isadora
10-15-2012, 04:59 PM
Seriously, I still can't quite believe he forgave her so easily.

I mean, Sanders seemingly lost his wife over that little ass grind and car smackity but Robstern is unbroken. Bra-vo you crazy hobos.

ophy
10-15-2012, 07:18 PM
More pics: http://kstewartnews.com/2012/10/15/new-pic-of-robkristen-out-in-l-a-this-weekend/

Appropriately Big Footesque for isadora.

ophy
10-15-2012, 09:04 PM
Pap vid from last night: http://youtu.be/tR7lrBx8-K4

And more pics from earlier today, R&K hanging out with friends in LA: http://kstewartnews.com/2012/10/15/new-pic-of-robkristen-out-with-friends-in-l-a-today/

Aw, the cute matching backwards baseball caps.


So that's two separate incidents in 24 hrs. Not a coincidence, I'm sure.

ophy
10-16-2012, 09:33 AM
Make that three! Sort of.

Rob went to the Elle Women in Fim event last night to present an award to Uma Thurman. Lots of pics here: http://robpattinson.blogspot.com/2012/10/rob-to-attend-elle-magazines-19th.html

He skipped the red carpet. Looks like the hair is growing wild, and the beard is coming in nicely.

ophy
10-17-2012, 04:21 PM
No. Oh, Beek no.

http://tvline.com/2012/10/17/twilight-tv-show/

Is Twilight coming to the small screen? A new take on the popular vampire and werewolf movie series is in development, and one idea circulating is a TV show, reports Moviehole.net. With the final film in the Twilight saga set to be released Nov. 16, many people are interested in keeping the high-grossing Lionsgate/Summit Entertainment franchise — based on the books by Stephenie Meyer — alive. Potential avenues include a “TV show or film spin-off, merely set in the same world as the one in the movies but not featuring the main trio,” according to the site’s sources. With Bella, Edward and Jacob out of the picture, on whom would such a project focus? “One area of interest” is the Wolf Pack. But is there room on the tube, which already features the beasts of True Blood, The Vampire Diaries, Teen Wolf and occasionally Supernatural, for even more wolves and vampires? Is there another set of characters from the Twilight books and films that should be explored instead? And which network can you see hosting such a series?

Read More at: http://tvline.com/2012/10/17/twilight-tv-show/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referral

Quite possibly the world's dumbest idea.

emmaleigh
10-17-2012, 05:01 PM
Rob's speech to Uma was mortifying. If you have any positive feelings toward him at all, do not watch it. I adore him and I couldn't even get through the whole thing.

This is cute though. (And not that surprising.) Kristen bought a house (for them) in the same neighborhood as their old house but in a gated community (thank Beek) and it's considerably smaller (thank Beek).

Awhile back from when Rob went to that dance charity thing:

Like any great dancer, Benjamin Millepied knows how to make an entrance. For the world premiere of his new collaborative, L.A. Dance Project, at the Walt Disney Concert Hall Saturday night, the former New York City Ballet principal choreographed a lavish evening (together with cohost Van Cleef & Arpels) complete with an intimate VIP dinner, a boisterous after-party, and even a Robert Pattinson sighting. “I live near Natalie [Portman] and she invited me to come,” said the Twilight star
R/K's old house was 1.5 miles from Natalie's house but the place that Kristen just bought is .1 miles/one block over.*

*I didn't do the vetting on that at all. Detective work belongs to a friend.

ophy
10-18-2012, 05:47 PM
It's as thought isadora conjured up these new big footesque pics herself:http://www.popsugar.com/Kristen-Stewart-Robert-Pattinson-Kissing-After-Breakup-25507195

And yes, there is kissing.

Unfortunately, these were obvs taken VERY CREEPILY by a pap with a super powered lens aimed at the house in Los Feliz that Kristen bought. So they are intrusive, and I feel dirty even posting them here, but I assume they will soon be everywhere.

I guess this means the hobos need to go house shopping again.

isadora
10-18-2012, 06:19 PM
Why is she wearing pants with a huge hole in the ass? They are so lucky they were fully clothed.

Also, it seems like the second girl is on to a camera spying them. But sister needs to add a bush or something because that is nothing but danger.

isadora
10-18-2012, 10:23 PM
I can't stop thinking about her ripped pants! I know it's irrational but I keep thinking: You are a multimillionaire who has purchased a home. Feel free to send an assistant to pick up some damn skinny jeans! Or have a boutique show up to deliver so you can continue to get high and not wash your hair. Either way!

/crazy vexed by this for no good reason.

ophy
10-18-2012, 10:27 PM
That's why when people start crying 'PR' at them, I'm like Whu? Who sets up PR shots like *those*? But ONTD is convinced that these super stalker shots were staged for BD promo. NOBODY stages shots when dressed like a street person, or swimming in their bf's UNDERWEAR. Name ONE person in Hollywood (other than Joaquin Phoenix or Thomas Jane) that would do that.

And also? Nobody needs to stage any crap for BD promo. It's gonna make its billion regardless.

As for how she dresses in her own house on her own time (or anywhere, really), eh. Don't care.

As long as she brings it for red carpets and movie promotion, that's what matters (and she certainly has been killing it in the fashion arena lately).

IssieCol
10-19-2012, 09:22 PM
Lainey says the at home pics were also arranged by KStew/RPattz and their peeps. I don't know what to believe anymore.

ophy
10-19-2012, 09:32 PM
Lainey talks an extreme amount of shit.

She thinks EVERYTHING EVER is for PR and she doesn't know jack. She still buys into all that Nikki Reed nonsense.

Kristen and Rob lawyered up, and Popsugar had to take the pics down. Which basically makes Lainey look like a fool, but I'll bet she refuses to recant.

emmaleigh
10-19-2012, 10:18 PM
MAJOR WORD to everything ophay said about Lainey with one tiny little addition, Lainey is a big fat fangirl and plays favorites like any other fangirl and all of her ~reporting follows suit. She DOES NOT like R/K (because they've had her banned from everything, ahem) so they're PRsten all day every day, but Jake & Swifty were totes tru luv for those six weeks of Starbucks dates because she loves her some Jakey G and he would nevah.

ETA: Lainey looks doubly stupid because she kept waiting for DAYS for something bigger than just the bar pics to make her post and then what she ultimately posted was totally rendered null mere hours later. Hee.
Lainey is the same person who said Kristen was carrying McDonalds coffee in her first pap pics after July for the sole purpose of appealing to middle America when in reality, hobos just love them some MickeyDs (which is pretty well documented over the years).

ETA again because who doesn't want to see some cute Budapest R/K?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCX5dTOvDsQ
Rob is 'ya there, babe'-ing all over the place. :heart:

ophy
10-20-2012, 09:15 AM
Kristen was carrying McDonalds coffee in her first pap pics after July for the sole purpose of appealing to middle America

I LOVE THIS. What crazy person thinks to themselves, 'what brand of fast food coffee will make the people in Kansas LOVE ME AGIN?'

I just cannot deal with Lainey and her wacko ways of connecting the dots. How long has it been since they totes barred her from interviewing R&K for Etalk because of her stupidity? Over a year, right? I wonder if they are going to grit their teeth and lift the ban for BD promo, or continue to tell her to suck it.

roly
10-20-2012, 10:03 AM
Jake & Swifty were totes tru luv for those six weeks of Starbucks dates because she loves her some Jakey G and he would nevah.
She's the one who won't entertain, even for a moment, the idea that he's gay even though he and Kirsten Dunst were clearly the answer to a bunch of, "she's downward spiraling because she's in really true love but her boyfriend won't stop banging guys" blind items and he's subsequently been the answer to pretty much every, "gay actor won't come out because it would ruin his career" blind item since they broke up, right? She's an ass.[/OT]

IssieCol
10-20-2012, 05:24 PM
I've always wondered why Lainey never addressed the Toothy Tile rumors as they related to Jake. She's basically outed Hugh Jackman whom she clearly loves, but seems to turn a blind eye to Jakey and Bradley Cooper.

isadora
10-20-2012, 06:16 PM
I used to think Bradley Cooper was gay but would Zoe Saldana front that and have her mom hang out with him, etc.? I don't know why but I don't see it.

ophy
10-20-2012, 07:25 PM
I always thought he was bi, tbh. Same with Jakey.

ophy
10-22-2012, 09:28 AM
Rob is in Sydney on his first stop to promote BD1: http://robpattinson.blogspot.ca/2012/10/breaking-dawn-part-2-sydney-photocall.html

Super broody in these pics, but it's prob a combo of jetlag and needing sunglasses.

Kristen arriving in Japan for her first stop: http://kstewartnews.com/2012/10/22/kristen-arrives-in-japan-oct-22nd-fan-pics/

ETA Rob at a fan event in Sydney wearing an . . . interesting shirt.http://robpattinson.blogspot.ca/2012/10/breaking-dawn-part-2-sydney-fan-event.html

It's his last Twi promo. Don't think he gives many fucks at this point.

ophy
10-22-2012, 08:41 PM
Screencaps of Kristen in Japan: http://kstewartnews.com/2012/10/22/screencaps-of-kristen-on-sukkiri-japan/

She looks good. I like her makeup a lot.

Wow, I have like zero to say about promo this time around. I can't even feel sad that it's the last one.

ophy
10-24-2012, 06:09 AM
Kristen at a fan event in Japan: http://kstewartnews.com/2012/10/24/kristen-attends-the-breaking-dawn-part-2-fan-event-in-japan/

She's wearing some kind of fancy Louis Vuitton shorts set. Not my fave look, nor it is my fave make up, but she looks healthy.

ophy
10-24-2012, 05:23 PM
The Fuggirls are with me on saying this isn't *quite* as flattering as it could have been: http://gofugyourself.com/fug-or-fab-kristen-stewart-3-10-2012

ophy
10-25-2012, 11:56 AM
Rob in an interview in Sydney for BD2 promo. http://robpattinson.blogspot.com/2012/10/rob-talks-bd2-fight-scenes-twilight.html

He looks good, sounds good. Pretty chill.

I think they are both on their way back/have gotten back to LA.

emmaleigh
10-25-2012, 05:31 PM
Their solo appearances went pretty well, all things considered. Kristen's answers were only a little head-scratching and Rob is really just at IDGAF capacity so this promo tour will be awesome where he's concerned, I think.

We really are back in 2009 though because fans & media are in denial about R/K's very much togetherness and we're going into a junket whilst I'm in the midst of AFM madness. *sob*